League Rundown - Episode 605: Stadium shows versus no hoes

[00:00:13] Speaker A: Gets a little too far here. He's gonna have to try and get himself out. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Let me go. [00:00:16] Speaker A: Tillery and the rest of the shots of fire. [00:00:17] Speaker B: Zion is just killing the Nexus. [00:00:19] Speaker A: Zion can eat it single handedly win the game by game by game by game by [00:00:26] Speaker B: should be. Oh my God. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Stupid. Passes through and manages to the table with Messiah tanking it up. [00:00:34] Speaker B: I do not believe he just believe. [00:00:42] Speaker A: I cannot understand this game. [00:00:46] Speaker B: Unicorns of love. It wasn't a mutant. The Nexus. [00:01:06] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to episode 605 of the League Rundown. This is your 2026 spring split LEC week five review and LCS week four review. And this episode is lovingly entitled Stadium Shows vs. No Hoes. I am your co host, Kangas and I almost said ho. Kangas. Joining me are two other co hosts. Up first, we have fresh out of the can, it's Badger. [00:01:33] Speaker C: What a great introduction. I, I, I don't even know how to respond to the title. I'm gonna be so for real. [00:01:41] Speaker A: We might not beat that one in a while. [00:01:43] Speaker C: I can't, I can't do this at this point. It's fine. [00:01:46] Speaker A: It's okay. If you're left speechless on the, on the names of the titles, that's actually the preferred outcome when I write them out. Usually that's kind of how it goes. And then it, when I say it, it's way worse. But also, given his opinion on the title of the podcast and bringing brand new Sal ASMR to the pod, at least maybe at some point we got Yanni. [00:02:11] Speaker B: Dude, that title was actually hilarious. I, I had to mute myself because that title was so good. That was, I got that got me. That got me. Yeah, man with the solid crunching. Asmr. I can't wait till I get the, till I get the ear microphones, you know, And I always, I always wanted to buy one of those to not to actually do ASMR puts a Hop in a Discord channel and start messing with people. [00:02:35] Speaker A: Oh, that would be good. You could also, because you're on the LPL English broadcast, you could get one custom for that for like in between game contents and stuff. [00:02:46] Speaker B: Oh, what do you mean I can do it during the game. [00:02:49] Speaker A: Oh, that's even better. That's even better. [00:02:53] Speaker B: In the team fight. Oh, and Knight gets to the back line. [00:02:57] Speaker A: Oh yeah. And then you can like go from ear to ear and it like switches between the two for people that have like surround sound. Yeah, that's good stuff. But the name of the episode is of course referencing the Topic on a lot of people's minds from this past weekend. LEC had a road show. They had their road trip, I guess is what they're calling it, like officially. And it was hosted by Casey in France. And then LCS was back in the stadium. Not in the closet anymore, back in the stadium. But much the chagrin of the community, did not sell tickets and did not allow folks in to watch live. So it was an empty studio despite the the teams playing on stage. So let's start with that side, the LCS side. I think the LAC is gonna be like a little more positive just because the crowd was really cool. But LCS side first reactions. I want to hear from both of you. Badger, what are your thoughts on LCS's decision to still use the main stage but not having a crowd? And in the context of like saving money to do more roadshows, this splits one being the finals. [00:04:01] Speaker C: I. Okay, so I don't understand how it saves money. I'm going to be so for real with you. [00:04:08] Speaker A: From my understanding, it is more expensive to use the stage than the closet, but only marginally so. When you talk about things like number of cameras, things like lighting, like the cost of the tech itself, it's marginally more expensive. Okay, but the big save, the big. [00:04:27] Speaker C: You're gonna do that because we're doing road shows. Let Valorant play in the state in this, in the stadium, and then just play in the soundstage like so. [00:04:38] Speaker A: So again, it's the main cost save is not having the event staff. If you don't have to pay the hourly wages of like the 20 plus that are handling merch, handling, ticketing, handling like the. Yeah, the live venue experience. Actually, I don't know if it's 20. That's ballpark figure. Whatever it is, that's like a couple grand right there. And if you save a couple grand over a couple of weeks, that's where we get the, you know, five digit to six digit figures to then pay for like a. A roadshow type thing. I'm not looking at the numbers. Don't quote me on any of that. But that's like how I understand it. And so. So that was the bigger cost saving. But then was Valorant happening? I actually don't know because I was [00:05:26] Speaker C: going on at the same time. [00:05:27] Speaker A: Yeah, Valorant was happy at the same time. Yeah. Okay, that's really funny because that also like scheduling wise budgets, you just save more money being in the closet than being on stage. So maybe it was like they wanted that one for that weekend. I don't know what that conversation, like, behind the scenes, it's messy though, right? And like, for optics wise, it doesn't look good when you're on stage. But no crowd. [00:05:49] Speaker B: But. [00:05:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Just a little extra context. Sorry, sorry. Continue, Badger on. On your thoughts on the. [00:05:53] Speaker C: No, no, no. I just, I just, I, I get the, the contingency plan of having to use the two different stages just because, you know, the way the schedule works out. It's not like LEC and VCT mea when. Where VCT MEA can play Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and then LEC plays Saturday, Sunday, Monday. But it's still just the idea of like the, the revenue of like just bringing in tickets. Is that not worth the. I. I don't know. I'm not on the business side of it, but it's really weird to just have like two empty stadiums. Pretty much, yeah. [00:06:32] Speaker A: I mean, like math. If you sell tickets, I think they're like 15 bucks per ticket. I. I want to say I haven't actually looked at like, ticket tickets in a while. [00:06:39] Speaker B: There's a big issue here where. Sorry to cut you off. Where even, even when there are games going on, the stadium is not full. And yeah, tickets are very cheap. So you're running into this issue where you are hemorrhaging money because entry is cheap, but nobody is coming in anyway, right? Like, if entry is cheap but everybody is coming in, you're gonna entice some of these people to go buy merch. Right? And the merch is, you know, your money maker. But when that's not happening, it's simply because I'm starting to think it's simply because it's just, it's every weekend. So if people are like, oh, I just won't go this week, I'll go next weekend. Like, I think you run into that kind of apathy a little bit at times. Also, also, if. [00:07:22] Speaker A: If it's the same people that come every weekend, they're probably not going to buy merch every weekend, so. [00:07:26] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:07:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:28] Speaker B: But, like, one of my other issues is I'm. I really don't want to like, blame the players or anything like that, but the personalities are not there. I'm not even talking about, like, the skill level. Like, the personalities of the players exist and it's starting to come through in content a little bit. But this would have been the perfect era to bring back the mandatory streaming contracts where back in the day you had a obligation to stream a certain amount of time per month for whatever team you were assigned to And I [00:08:02] Speaker A: believe that was a team mandated thing, not like a league wide. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Yes, yes. I think the team should bring that back realistically because I think they are in a power position to be able to do so at this point because of the way things kind of flipped. Because before it was very like player powered. Now it's starting to get like a little bit more franchise power where they can kind of tell you what to do or you're just gonna get next person in line. Especially if you're on some of these lower end teams. But these players just need to stream more as a whole. Like I mean you need to make [00:08:38] Speaker A: that connection to it. That's kind of getting into a different topic. I, I guess I could imagine that like affecting ticket sales as well. [00:08:45] Speaker B: You got to get the people to care. Even the way that people care. [00:08:47] Speaker A: If you speak about this. Even if you sell at the studio though, if we, if you're doing the quick math, I believe the studio can hold like 200 or 250. I think 250 is actually like the upper limit of what it can hold in person. Times that by $15 per ticket. That's what, 5K? Like under five grand total. Maybe, Maybe like around that. That's quick math in my head but like that doesn't pay for all of the hourly employees that have to come in to, to make that show work. And maybe like barely covers it that like you need merch sales, you need people to go buy concessions, you need like other things you're not gonna make [00:09:31] Speaker B: money off of just running, running an in person show. Unless you are a large conglomerate like like the major four sports, it's just not gonna happen. It's just a matter of, you know, managing how little you can lose off of that and what. [00:09:47] Speaker A: And so I think that that's where people are like I understand where you're coming from, Badger and a lot of folks being like what the hell, that seems so redundant. But then you run the numbers and you're like it does technically save money. [00:10:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:01] Speaker A: And that's best case scenario if you sell out the arena. We have not been selling out the arena during regular season playoffs. [00:10:08] Speaker B: You know, it'll get people in [00:10:11] Speaker C: riot. [00:10:12] Speaker B: I hope you're listening because I have a great idea for you. If you sell an LCS ticket, the next skin that somebody would like to buy that's 1350 or less is 50 off. You just. I don't know how you'd code it or anything like that, but reward the people for coming into esports because you'll make them buy rp. [00:10:35] Speaker A: Interesting. You know, we. They probably could like have a QR code that you scan when you get in. [00:10:41] Speaker B: Boom. Your account gets 50 off one time. Yeah. Boom. [00:10:46] Speaker A: Honestly, that wouldn't even be that hard to implement. I can't imagine so. All right. I was a little worried that it was gonna be something cursed. Like everybody that comes in gets to slap Kangas or something. And I was like, I'll do it. [00:10:59] Speaker B: Kangas on. On the regular. [00:11:01] Speaker A: You know, I believe what you do is called spanking. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Slapped him this weekend. [00:11:07] Speaker A: That's for a different podcast. That's for a different podcast. Oh, my God. Either way, that is something that was on the minds of a lot of folks. I'm sure a lot of people listening along have their own opinions on it. Would love to hear everyone's opinions in the community. Discord. But the big thing was it just made the viewer experience so polarizing because LEC was so hype. That crowd was awesome, man. They were making noise. It was shaking. The arena. Felt like a finals weekend all weekend long. Even though it's just regular season with pretty games overall. Then you go to lcs, which comes on right after. In an arena with zero people. And also a lot of the matchups were pretty one sided and like, not the most exciting. It's like it just felt bad. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Just move us online at this point. [00:11:58] Speaker A: What was that? [00:11:59] Speaker B: Just move us to online at this point. [00:12:01] Speaker A: That's it has re sparked that conversation as well, which a lot of folks have been like, speculating about. I've been speculating about it. Again. I know zero information internally about that. It's just something that's like. It comes up in conversation with a lot of fans and a lot of folks that I like, like at the tier 2 to tier 1 level. [00:12:19] Speaker B: Says man who probably knows information about it but can't talk about it. [00:12:23] Speaker A: I. I know. I legitimately, I actually know none. [00:12:27] Speaker B: I believe you. I. I promise. I do believe. I'm just kidding. [00:12:29] Speaker A: Okay, cool. I. I don't want it to be like, go out of like, oh, gang is like leaking anything or like planting breadcrumbs. [00:12:37] Speaker B: Angus, he'll get. He'll get you, right? Gun buddy, too. [00:12:40] Speaker A: Okay? Yeah. Yeah. And you can slap me if you appear in the studio. I think that all these have been confirmed now. [00:12:46] Speaker B: I cannot wait to fly out on a random weekend without telling you and be like, all right. [00:12:52] Speaker A: And then you pull up your phone and you play the audio clip of this moment of the pod and be like, you said it. [00:12:57] Speaker B: You Told me, let me do it live on broadcast. [00:13:01] Speaker A: Oh, they. They would. They would actually. I'm pretty sure that they would encourage that. But all that to say is that the difficulty of saving budget for roadshows is that moments like that can happen. If LEC was not having their own road trip, I don't think the reaction would have been nearly as palpable, but it's because it was such a polarizing difference from one show leading into another. The European crowd that's watching at home, like the online crowd that sticks around to watch LCS is unlike, oh, look at this like, dichotomy here. It's crazy. So that. That's the thing that felt the worst, I think, was just the timing of it. Next week, LCS will be back in the arena still, or rather this coming weekend, LCS will be back in the arena still with no audience, but LEC will be back at their arena. They don't have a road show this coming weekend, so we'll see what the reaction's like for that. And if it feels as bad when it's the typical LEC crowd watching other things going on around the horn. Yanni, I'm going to toss this one to you. Playing League of Legends apparently has positive effects on your brain. Talk to me about it. Or don't. I don't know. Maybe Yanni can't talk right now. [00:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah. So there was a study that was done that suggests that playing League of Legends may improve specific cognitive skills. This is a tweet via Dexterity. I didn't really read all into the article. That being said, the study involved young, healthy college students, so keep that in mind. Old heads like me. But the results showed that participations participants had improved attention, working memory and executive function. [00:14:45] Speaker A: So, AKA what I took away from this is league players are just smarter than everybody else. [00:14:50] Speaker B: Yes, they are. [00:14:51] Speaker A: It's proven by science. [00:14:52] Speaker B: No doubt. No doubt about it. [00:14:53] Speaker A: And I think we all knew that deep down. [00:14:55] Speaker B: So, yeah, yeah. [00:14:57] Speaker A: This just kind of reinforces because we hadn't run our own studies because we're so smart that we just, like, figured people would take our word for it. Now. Now we can point to this thing. Badger, did you read the article or are you like us where you just read the headline and it kind of got. [00:15:12] Speaker C: I read the headline and I was like, oh, okay, cool. Anyways, and just moved on. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Okay, hold on. We have a problem. The study followed 68 young adult participants. You couldn't find one more? [00:15:25] Speaker A: Oh, damn. Wow, that's actually so tragic. [00:15:31] Speaker B: Okay, so this is actually interesting. The group play. One group played League of Legends for one hour a day, five days a week. So they played one game essentially because you're waiting in cue the other half of the time. Another group played Legends of the Three Kingdoms on the same schedule. So they tested spatial attention, spatial working memory and executive function. They also recorded resting brain activity to look for changes. The lead group showed greater gains in spatial attention and working memory, bigger changes in brainwave patterns as well. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Also, what the hell was that other game you said? [00:16:05] Speaker B: I don't know. But the research found that those benefits were still visible at a Follow up test 10 weeks later. Now, whoa. Now here's the thing. We don't know if they were still playing league that 10 weeks later. I'd imagine maybe they'd moved on a bunch of people. Well, I imagine if you got a bunch of people to play league for one hour five days a week, they'd probably still be playing league at some point or another. [00:16:29] Speaker A: So I imagine. But then, then it begs the question, does that mean if you play five hours a day that you're that much smarter? [00:16:37] Speaker B: I don't. [00:16:38] Speaker A: Oh well, is it like, like an infinitely stacking buff or is it like. [00:16:43] Speaker B: I don't know bro. I've seen some real stupid challenger players. [00:16:49] Speaker A: Well I think I really wish the [00:16:51] Speaker C: Gamer tweets thread was still around because that just tells you everything that you need to know at this point. [00:16:56] Speaker A: True. Big takeaway. I think league players are just mentally superior to everyone else and now it's proven by science. Checkmate DOTA players. Other news going around Badger. There's a War Bruin in esports right now. Each region runs its own league and there's one big third party tournament organizer. Very controversial. A lot of folks are not happy with them joining the scene that are trying to create more and more events. And now one of of the biggest, heaviest hitters in the regional side has gone to war as Kespa Club. Casper cup rather, or not even Casper cup, just Kespa as a organization has declared war on the Esports nations cup and might not participate. How impactful would that be for that global event if Korea is not there? [00:17:49] Speaker C: If Korea is not there, it's a fucking Mickey Mouse tournament. Like let's be for. [00:17:53] Speaker A: I don't even think it counts. It really doesn't. [00:17:56] Speaker C: Like there's talks of like China not being there, but like if Korea and China are not at ENC then it's just the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse tournament. Like that's. There's no ifs Ands or buts about it when you have the two regions that won all but two world championships. Yes, you all include you in this fucking argument. I guess even though there were no Chinese or Korean teams. Hey, accounts at season one and freaks basement at the start of it. But just like the idea that, like the. Just this of a few days ago, the Esports foundation informed Kespa that we will not be moving forward together as our national partner for the esports Nations Cup 2026. Did they realize what fucking KESPA is like? Kespa is the fucking governing body of all of this shit. Like, how can you have. How can you say, hey, Korea, like South Korea, we want you to be there, but Kaspa cannot be involved. [00:18:53] Speaker B: Like, that's. [00:18:54] Speaker C: That's blasphemy. Like, what the are we doing? [00:18:58] Speaker A: And it is like sending banana ball. [00:19:00] Speaker C: This is. This is no offense to any banana ball players if you. If you listen to this. But this is like setting banana ball players to go play in the Olympics in 2028. [00:19:11] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, they should just have banana ball in the Olympics. For anybody who's not aware, that's like the funny baseball league, right? [00:19:16] Speaker B: Where they like, we love the Savannah Bananas. [00:19:20] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. [00:19:21] Speaker C: I guess I'm in the minority here. It's fine. [00:19:24] Speaker B: You don't like the Savannah Bananas. [00:19:26] Speaker C: I know. I don't mind them. It's just I played actual baseball for like 16 years, so I played actual [00:19:32] Speaker B: baseball for a long time. And I am a. I would. I would consider myself a baseball purist. Like, my favorite game to watch is like a two to one pitchers duel. Like, I love that. But like, the Savannah Bananas are, you know, getting more young people into baseball and. [00:19:47] Speaker C: No, like, I totally understand the arguments behind it. It's just that's beside the point. It's definitely. [00:19:51] Speaker B: It's definitely wacky. And for people like us, it's not that fun to watch. [00:19:56] Speaker C: It's. It's like, oh, okay, they did something. All right. It's like watching the Harlem Globetrotters. Like, that's okay. [00:20:02] Speaker A: Okay, I'm going to pull us back because we're getting too deep. [00:20:04] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a conversation for another words. [00:20:08] Speaker A: But, like, this is not a meat sports podcast. [00:20:11] Speaker B: It's an esports. Not meat sports. [00:20:14] Speaker A: More specifically, Korean Esports Player Association. Is that what Casper stands for? [00:20:18] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, the esports. [00:20:20] Speaker A: Something like that. Yeah. [00:20:20] Speaker C: Esports Player Association. [00:20:22] Speaker A: If they're not there, if China's not there, it is a very silly tournament. And I think that it just means that it's can kind of invalidate it. It'll have a giant asterisk on it. Like that's the. The most generous take is that the winner will have an asterisk. It'll be kind of like world season one where yes, it happened but it doesn't really count. And that really pulls into question the future of the event. A lot of folks are still not a fan just because of who is hosting it. But it's a cool concept. Like having a league or a tournament where it's like country representatives is very, very cool. So yeah, we'll see what happens with that going forward. Those are the kind of the big news stories around league in general, like capital L league. But now let's talk about some regional move happening on here. Some. Some roster shifts going on. Speaking of shifters looking to shift their jungler because Badger, I think this was you that had brought this my attention. It looks like Shayo rumored to be coming in for Bukata. Now is this a rumor or. [00:21:29] Speaker C: I thought it was confirmed, but I may be wrong. Hold on, let me look up their post real fast. I saw something. [00:21:35] Speaker B: I think it is confirmed by the way. [00:21:37] Speaker A: Okay, I missed that confirmation then. [00:21:39] Speaker B: But either way joined shifters quite literally yesterday. [00:21:43] Speaker A: Okay, cool. So if the player player contract database confirms it then there we go. Shayo in for Bukata. I don't think that's a big surprise. I was surprised when Shayo got benched so quickly by team Heretics to begin with. But you know, cool to get a starting spot again so fast. I mean that's, that's a quick turnaround. I feel like it's not even the first time that's happened in the LEC in the last like year like last year or something like that. Happened with like SK and Giant X or something like that. But either way we'll see if that gets Shifters their first win because as of right now, them and Dignitas are still in the race for who gets the first win of the split. And Badger made a suit observation. This might be a race going into summer because looking at their schedules, each of them only have like one match that maybe they could win. Dig have disguised and shifters have team Heretics coming up soon. So we'll see. [00:22:36] Speaker B: Yeah, simply put, we will Rift rivals once again. One. One time only. [00:22:43] Speaker C: One time only. Shifters versus Dig the toss played played [00:22:48] Speaker B: in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. [00:22:51] Speaker A: Oh God. [00:22:52] Speaker C: Bring back the re Victoria. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Yeah, we're going to put them on rafts. Five rafts, one per player. No, actually top Laners have to share a raft, and they have to, like, square up against each other. [00:23:04] Speaker C: We're gonna. [00:23:04] Speaker B: We're gonna put them in a. Which is owned by Portugal. [00:23:11] Speaker A: What is this? What's what? [00:23:12] Speaker B: Azores. [00:23:13] Speaker A: Like an island. [00:23:14] Speaker B: It is an island. [00:23:15] Speaker A: It is in the Atlantic. [00:23:17] Speaker B: Yeah. It's 870 miles west of Portugal. [00:23:21] Speaker A: Okay, good for them. [00:23:23] Speaker B: It has. It's 908 square miles. It has a population of 236,000 people. [00:23:31] Speaker A: That's actually more than I expected for that, honestly. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Yes, I agree. Which is why it actually makes sense. I originally said it as a joke, but I pulled up the Wikipedia and, [00:23:40] Speaker A: like, no, they definitely have some infrastructure. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. You could run this there. [00:23:45] Speaker A: All right, well, we'll look into that. Maybe that's what we're saving the riot budget for with less, you know, [00:23:52] Speaker B: the lec. You can tie it together. [00:23:56] Speaker A: I'll cast it. I'll just put my LEC day rate towards that. Boom. There we go. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Hell yeah, bro. We did it. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Hosted myself. One other roster move, though that's happening is over in the lck and it's less of like a roster move and more of like a roster punishment. Badger. What's going on with Diable? [00:24:14] Speaker C: So Diable had some stuff going on. There's been some attitude stuff. There was, like, a missed fan. Me and Fear X has just decided, you know what? We're benching Diablo. We're gonna bring Slayer in for the rest of the split. So the change happened this morning. So Diablo's gonna go play down in LCK Academy for a little bit. Slayer is gonna come up from Ferrix Youth and take over for the team, which, I mean, they're not doing too hot right now, so it doesn't matter, really. Anyways, [00:24:48] Speaker A: the. [00:24:50] Speaker C: There was a whole statement that came out, but essentially, long story short, there was fan meets, and there was some obligations that he had, but it was. You know, he was missing stuff, and they were just kind of tired of it. And they said, you know what? This is a get right. You have to figure your out kind of thing. [00:25:08] Speaker A: So, yeah, from what I had seen, it was like the fan meets and then also general attitude. Yeah. Was kind of like the reasons given. So it's kind of like a punishment where it's like, hey, correct your attitude. Like, let's get a right mental here. And you're not gonna be playing until then. What do we think this does for their current state standings? Like, where are they in the standings right now? Are they. [00:25:29] Speaker C: So right now they're seventh. They Are two and six. They're right behind Dongshim Red Force who is four and four. So they're two series behind. There are five weeks left. Yeah, five weeks. They're about to enter week five at this point and they played to week nine. The first team they play coming out of this is Domwon. Kia or D plus kia. Apologies. So really feed to the fire on this one for Slayer. But then they also play the DN Supers this week. So hopefully that's Owen for them. Maybe they. Maybe he goes 11 in his first week. Who knows? [00:26:10] Speaker A: I mean, you never know. Sometimes it's. It's tough to see a player of Diablo's like pedigree to be dropped down. I mean, there's a lot of hype for him around. First stand or. Yeah, first stand. There we go. I got the name right. I almost corrected myself. Not first strike, it is first stand. But then when you're, you know, the sub player coming in, you're like, this is my one, my one shot, my one opportunity. Mom's spaghetti. Get in there, baby. So who knows? Maybe Slayer shows up and just crushes it. [00:26:38] Speaker C: Yeah, just the rest of the LCK rundown real fast. Since we're on it. Casey Rolster is 8 no with a 162 game score. [00:26:45] Speaker A: Let's go. [00:26:47] Speaker C: Han was right behind him. 7 and 1 with a 14.4gen G NT1 both are 5 and 3 with an 11 and 6. Dam one right behind them. 5 and 3 with an 11 and 7 Nongshim 4 and 4 with a 9 and 9 and then everyone else is like Fear, ex DRX, Hanjin Brion and then DN Supers. All are 2 and it's either 2 and 6 or 1 and 7 with a sub 30% win rate game score wise this season, there's a clear top 6 and bottom 4 at the LCK. [00:27:21] Speaker A: Damn. Well awesome for KT fans around the world. I know at least one particular one in the LCS I'll have to chat with now during our next story meeting because I'm sure Emily Rand's gonna be very excited about that. [00:27:35] Speaker C: The big one, the big game this week. Katie Rolster plays Hanwha Life Tomorrow morning at 6:00am East Coast, 3:00am West Coast. So kind of a big one. Topical table. [00:27:50] Speaker A: Well, for the east Coasters, set your alarm early. For the West Coasters, watch it later. No, I don't encourage you to ruin [00:27:56] Speaker B: yourself inside LPL this morning. I am not setting my alarm early. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Yes, it's understandable. Dude, talk to me about the LPL what's going on in the opal League? [00:28:06] Speaker B: Real quick. We want to go back to the. The benching. I'm so excited for Slayer. It's been a long time coming for this guy. Played with guy a lot. This is the caster, right? [00:28:16] Speaker A: I don't think this is a play by play. NaCl caster. Right. I'm pretty sure this is a different. [00:28:21] Speaker B: No, no, no. I'm. I. We play together on hard style, Caster, what we played. You know, obviously now that he's on. On Fear X. [00:28:27] Speaker A: Right. But you know, I think a different guy. I think you're. [00:28:31] Speaker B: No, no, no. I know I'm definitely right. [00:28:34] Speaker A: They're both 80 carries. But I don't. I don't. You know what? Actually I'm not even 100% positive. So maybe in the same room and I have not. I cannot say that. So I will say with 99.9 positive confidence that it's not the same guy. [00:28:50] Speaker B: But I don't know about that, chief. All right, let's talk about the lpl. So interesting week of the lpl. So right now we have a little bit of flux coming up at the top. But the top four being Top Esports, BLG, Anyone's Legend and JDG. Now that doesn't really sound particularly spicy, but JDG has been off and on. Anyone's Legend is now 4 and 1. In their last five matches. They started 1 and 2. Invictus Gaming is in sixth place right now at 3 and 5. They started out 30 and they're now 05 in their last five matches. NiP was just in that top four. But right now top esports is at the top of the table beating out on BLG. Now Top Esports did just get 2 owed by Weibo today who we say we had almost for dead in that second to last spot because team W E is 0 and 7 and has zero game wins. In fact, I would like to add another team to the race. Oh, hey, let's join team W e. You know why? Because Hulk Battery Mazel Rafa. And I do not believe that team WWE is going to win a series in group ascend for the rest of the split. We think they are going to go completely winless. 0 and 14. [00:30:12] Speaker A: What about a game? [00:30:16] Speaker B: I don't know, man. [00:30:18] Speaker A: That would be atrocious. [00:30:20] Speaker B: So. So here's the problem with that. Invictus gaming has the least game wins and they have eight. They're three and five in series and they're eight and 11 in games. They're the second worst. Like, oh, boy, that is. That is good for having the second lowest amount of game. Individual game wins. That's very good. Well, so I. [00:30:42] Speaker A: Your name is We. You can call him Piss. [00:30:44] Speaker B: Yeah, We. We Piss, baby. Like, that's how it goes. Couple of interesting upsets. Nip on Thursday. On the 23rd, Nip defeated BLG2O. I casted that match before I got on the flight to go to Atlanta and beat your ass at Riftbound Kangas. [00:30:59] Speaker A: Hey, I wasn't going to tell anybody about that. [00:31:02] Speaker C: Let's go. [00:31:04] Speaker B: And we thought. We thought that maybe this was going to be Nip's week because they were. Before going into this week, they were three and one and we were like, oh, all right. We're going to find out if they're real or not. And they're playing against anyone's legend to BLG in top esports. And we're like, well, they're probably going to go one and two and they're probably going to beat Al because the way the Al was looking and then they got toured by Al and we're like, damn, Nip is fake as hell. But then Nip two o's BLG and we're like, nip is real. And then they get two out by top esports. And now we still don't know what the hell nip is. So take with that as you will, but it was a very exciting series this morning. Of course, I was. I was on the broadcast. Al get. They get their win. Weibo Gaming 2o top eSports. As I mentioned a couple moments ago, Stop esports are now 6 and 2 sharing the spot with BLG. They just have a better game differential. Top esports are 12 and 4. Big are 12 and 6. So it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the top of the table shapes up with anyone's legend getting hot. [00:32:04] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. And also just shout out Yanni, by the way, because what I just learned is that you casted LPL overnight, flew to Atlanta to play Riftbound all weekend, flew back, casted LPL when he got [00:32:16] Speaker B: back, and then worked a 10 hour shift. Yes. Oh my good. I got done work as we were about to start the podcast. [00:32:24] Speaker A: And you made the podcast. Let's go, dude. [00:32:27] Speaker B: I. No, listen, I might not be the best, but no one can ever question my dedication to the cause. [00:32:33] Speaker A: Hey, let's go, dude. Hell yeah. And we love a good work ethic. That's a Deku Midoriya over here. [00:32:38] Speaker C: Base true. Yeah, I don't I don't. I don't know what that reference is, I'm gonna be honest. [00:32:44] Speaker A: Damn, you got really excited for that. [00:32:45] Speaker B: I just need a really good caster to like, rip out their voice box and give it to me or some. [00:32:50] Speaker C: True. [00:32:50] Speaker A: You know what? I. I kind of lost my voice this weekend. If you want my screechy ass voice, you can take it. All right, that's gonna be it for news around the horn. Thank you guys for the LCK and LPL updates. Now it's time to hop into the leagues that we traditionally cover here. That being LEC and lcs, we took a little bit longer on the news first off, because there was a decent amount of news also. Did I miss a piece of news? There was something I said we were going to talk about. Oh, it was the win rates. [00:33:19] Speaker B: Yeah, the most and least wins. [00:33:21] Speaker A: It was the most, least wins. And again, what I was about to say there was before I interrupted my own self. The game's quality. There's not as much that we wanted to break down only like basically like one series in each region that we actually felt like really deserved attention. Other than that, we're just gonna be updating standings and kind of who beat whom. But speaking of who beat whom and more specifically who lost, there was some really fun stats that came out this weekend. Yanni, I'm going to give you LCs. And Badger, I'll give you LEC because we got information on both leagues about the overall win rate in their first hundred professional games. Elio, the stats guy put out lcs and this was in response to the LEC posting. And I don't know who initially did. It was Monsieur Yordle that I saw on Twitter. I don't know who that is, if they work for LEC proper, but LEC overall was just showing out a lot of fun stats like this. So Yanni, in LCS, who currently is the top 10 lowest wins in their first hundred games, aka the worst win rate to start their careers. [00:34:28] Speaker B: Yep. And as you said, done by Leo the stats guy. Also nad carry for Heartstuck Caster, though, not to be confused with Leo Slayer Silverman, the new AD carry of Pink Fury. Anyway, least wins differently in your first 100 LCS games. We have a tie currently, but this is slated to be broken A Blaze, Olive and Big. 31 wins in their first hundred games. [00:34:49] Speaker A: Frog, 31% win rate. Remember that? Yes. [00:34:52] Speaker B: Froggin with 32. Remember that team that initially came over did not have a great start. Keith and Mash 33 and then three people tied for 35th. Gate, Johnson and Golden Glue. [00:35:06] Speaker A: Remember Johnson? [00:35:08] Speaker B: I do, I do. [00:35:09] Speaker A: 100 Thieves Johnson. [00:35:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Gate's still around. Doesn't Gate work for. [00:35:16] Speaker A: He does. [00:35:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:18] Speaker A: I believe. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:35:20] Speaker A: Maybe the balance team he's on. [00:35:22] Speaker B: Yeah, he is on one of those. And then Revenge in Acadian with 36 wins in their first hundred games to round that out. So we got a couple ties. But Castle is the closest active player to a hundred games. He has 92. He has 26 wins. So in order to break this in his next eight games, he must get five wins to not be the worst. [00:35:49] Speaker A: And on top of that, he is guaranteed to be in the top 10. Because even if he wins out his next eight games, he still is only at 34, which means that he is worse than Gate, Johnson and Goldenglue. And that means Revenge and Acadian. One of them will just get, like, cut out from that top 10 because they're tied at 36. [00:36:11] Speaker B: Did you see That's Castle's tweet. [00:36:13] Speaker A: I did. It was so funny, man. [00:36:15] Speaker B: I feel so bad for this guy, bro. [00:36:17] Speaker A: Did you see a blaze. Olive's tweet? His. His bio. His Twitter bio. Sorry. [00:36:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he's not gonna have that [00:36:24] Speaker A: for that worst LCS player. [00:36:26] Speaker B: He's not gonna have it for long. I'm sorry, Castle, did you see the most wins in first hundred games as well? [00:36:35] Speaker A: Sorry, what was that? [00:36:36] Speaker B: Did you see the most wins in the first? [00:36:38] Speaker A: I did not see that one. [00:36:39] Speaker B: No. [00:36:39] Speaker A: I only saw the least wins. [00:36:41] Speaker B: Oh, that's a fun one. I have it up right here if we want it. [00:36:43] Speaker C: Can I guess a couple of names at the top? [00:36:46] Speaker B: Absolutely. Let's see. You know what? [00:36:48] Speaker C: Okay. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Yeah, go ahead. [00:36:50] Speaker C: Rain Over. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Rain over is not there. Rain over probably didn't play 100 games. [00:36:55] Speaker A: I'm going to go. Masu. [00:36:57] Speaker B: Masu is not on there. Whoa. [00:37:01] Speaker A: Okay. Because he was straight to, like, Fly Quest in a Heater of Sven is not on there. Bjergsen? Really? [00:37:09] Speaker B: Bjergsen is not on there. [00:37:11] Speaker C: Really? [00:37:12] Speaker A: Yo, what are we talking about? [00:37:15] Speaker B: So for reference, there are. Hold on. There are 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 players on this list, and [00:37:22] Speaker A: none that we've listed were on there. [00:37:24] Speaker B: Not a single meteos is on there. [00:37:28] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Pretty much anyone from that first C9 roster should be. [00:37:31] Speaker B: That entire first C9 roster is in first place with 82 wins in their first hundred games and 82 win rate. Because remember, remember, we played 28 games in a split. [00:37:45] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah. [00:37:46] Speaker B: And they dominated 25 and three in their first split. [00:37:49] Speaker A: I think that's crazy. [00:37:53] Speaker C: Trying to think who else would be on there. Like. [00:37:55] Speaker B: So you've knocked out five out of 11 players, by the way. [00:37:58] Speaker A: Impact. He was on. [00:38:01] Speaker C: No, because he was on Energy when he came over. And that's energy. [00:38:03] Speaker A: Yes. Damn, Corey. [00:38:10] Speaker C: In case anyone is wondering the quality of the games this weekend, this is why. [00:38:15] Speaker A: Okay, [00:38:18] Speaker C: is Froggit on the list? [00:38:20] Speaker B: Froggin. Froggin's on the least. He had 32. [00:38:23] Speaker C: Oh, that's right. That's right. [00:38:25] Speaker A: That's really funny that he's the second worst. [00:38:29] Speaker B: People don't pay attention to casters, dude. I swear to God. [00:38:32] Speaker A: Dude. Okay, I'm gonna give one more guess. Magic gets one more guess, then we're gonna move on here. So I'm gonna go. I feel like it would be maybe one of the early players. [00:38:45] Speaker B: So there are two, three active players on this list. [00:38:49] Speaker A: Three active players. Okay. [00:38:53] Speaker C: Inspired. [00:38:54] Speaker B: Inspired is not on the list, surprisingly. [00:38:57] Speaker C: Okay. I wonder. [00:38:58] Speaker B: I Wonder if he's hit 100. He might be close. I don't. [00:39:01] Speaker C: He's got to have hit 100. [00:39:02] Speaker A: Okay, so if it's not Impact, then I'm going to go. So who he's first split was on or first year was on? Clg. And they were pretty good that first year, but then his second year, they weren't as good. So I don't know if it'd be who he. Oh, but who. [00:39:19] Speaker B: What? [00:39:19] Speaker A: Who else was on that Immortals roster that like had a crazy 2016? [00:39:23] Speaker C: Who? He ran over Cooney. [00:39:26] Speaker B: It was Hoonie. [00:39:27] Speaker A: Ran over. He ran over Pobelter. [00:39:30] Speaker B: What was that? Bot Lane. [00:39:33] Speaker A: I don't remember. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Was it. No. [00:39:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it wouldn't be any of them because like Adrian. I don't think any of them around. Adrian. It might have been Adrian. Yeah, Adrian in like. I can see his face. Not stunned. [00:39:45] Speaker B: Six. Six players. Six players, Three of them active. [00:39:49] Speaker A: Okay, three of them active. Let's focus on that part. [00:39:55] Speaker B: FBI Yawn and FBI are not on the list. [00:39:58] Speaker C: Okay. [00:39:58] Speaker B: Damn. Can't guess. I'll give you one last kill because he got. Because Badger got two. Badger got two. And after he said after we called [00:40:05] Speaker C: last guess that's fine. [00:40:07] Speaker A: Oh, I get. No, I don't need it. [00:40:08] Speaker C: Just. Just give us the list. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Okay, so at 71 we have Berserker Huni and Sven Scarron. [00:40:17] Speaker C: Okay. [00:40:18] Speaker B: At 73 we have Blabber. At 75 we have Quad. And the player with the second most wins in their first hundred games, Biofrost with 77. [00:40:33] Speaker C: Because he came in the TSM right as they were getting good. [00:40:36] Speaker B: He was very good. [00:40:38] Speaker A: Cannot believe Quad is on there. [00:40:41] Speaker B: What the. [00:40:41] Speaker A: And Masu is not. Are you sure? Because they've only been on the same roster. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Yep, this is correct. [00:40:46] Speaker A: How does that even mathematically make sense? [00:40:50] Speaker C: Like. [00:40:50] Speaker A: No, I'm just confused. Oh, you know why? Because Masu had to play with Jensen for a bit and they sucked and he had to play with. No, he didn't play with Prince or the Vickla because that was the Prince Ross. Yeah, but he did play with Jensen for a bit and they lost a bunch and then Quad came in and then they won a bunch. So I bet you Quad just has like a couple more. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. [00:41:13] Speaker A: Ah, that's crazy. Okay, interesting. Well, that's fun. Now let's do LEC real fast here. Just because we're going to burn through the list. [00:41:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, Nobody cares. Nobody cares about lec. [00:41:25] Speaker A: Okay, sure. People probably won't even reckon recognize at [00:41:29] Speaker C: the top of the list, the goat. Actually, no, it's updated because Promise Q was on there twice at the top of the list at 30 win rate, it's profit. He Q next at 31. White Knight and Promise Q tied at 32. Cage roll dreams and limit for 34. Joko and Genix at 36 and Nuclear Int at 37. [00:41:56] Speaker B: Living up to that name. [00:41:57] Speaker A: Cage of course. Making the list baby on the list. [00:42:00] Speaker C: Of course. [00:42:01] Speaker B: Cancel this way to the list. [00:42:03] Speaker A: I feel like this is, if I had to guess, this is why the list was published in the first place is they're like, let's name drop Cage rule In the top 10 low win rate players of all time in their honest hundred games. It's a funny thing. It's cool. I love these types of stats, especially in an esport. In a game that's been around for as long as ours has been, these type of stats are awesome because like for na, for example, for the most wins, there's that historical roster run and then now it's like, can anybody beat that? Even biofrost on the most dominant TSM roster couldn't beat that. So like, is it possible Quad got close. He's still active. Right. So like then these conversations start to happen. I think that honestly you'll probably hear us reference to this on the LCS broadcast at some point this weekend. I can imagine this being a fun desk segment. So yeah, wanted to highlight that and talk about it. But now it is time to hop into the regional leagues themselves. If we missed any stories that you wanted to Hear us talk about. Make sure to let us know in the community Discord. Also, shout out anybody who's already in there. If you want to join, you can check out the link in the description wherever you are listening. Also, shout out to everybody who supports the podcast on Patreon and our merch shop. Links to both of those are in the description. And one last shout out. I forgot to do this last week, but the league rundown Fantasy is getting close at the top. And by close I mean between the top two. I'm falling a little behind, but I'm still in the top three. Shout out puppets with 593 fantasy points. Next split, Shopify Rebellion is the name of the team from Korag, a fellow Shopify believer alongside us on the pod. Probably not drafting the players because they're at 573 points. And then I'm on the podium at 5:24, a full 50 behind Korag, and fourth place is right on my heels. So shout out to anybody in the community who joins the Fantasy Discord, or rather Fantasy league through the Discord. If you have not yet, you still can and your points should carry over. Okay, table setting out of the way. Let's talk about regional leagues. We did LEC second last week with me and Mezelle's episode, so we're going to start with LEC this time around. Badger up first. Just run me through the standings. Who's at the top? Who's at the bottom? [00:44:22] Speaker C: Sorry, what league are we doing first? [00:44:26] Speaker B: Wow. [00:44:27] Speaker A: You know, Yanni, you're right. Yeah. People really don't listen to the castings. Yeah, you're right. [00:44:30] Speaker C: I was going to say I was like pulling up the sheet and I'm like, wait, did I pull up the right one? Because I saw the LCK one on there. So at the top, finally getting games in, it's Carmine Core at 6:0. Second place, Team Vitality 6 and 1, Navi 6 and 2 bringing up third, Giant X at 4 and 2 and then G2, 3 and 2, MCOI 3 and 2, Fnatic 2 and 5 on the borderline of making playoffs. But realistically speaking, they're like so far behind at this point. SK Heretics and Shifters all have been math mathematically eliminated from playoffs. So they are 2 and 6, 1 and 6 and 0 and 7 respectively. [00:45:14] Speaker A: Yup. [00:45:14] Speaker C: Or disrespectfully, I guess. Honestly. [00:45:16] Speaker B: Good call. Good fuck. [00:45:17] Speaker C: You have to watch these teams. I have to watch these teams every week. Insane there. [00:45:24] Speaker A: We will know pretty much that after this coming weekend because the Final week is only four teams playing. We'll know what the playoffs teams are. We just want no seating because Fnatic. Well, okay, I, I say that assuming if fanatic like win out, then we won't know. But I don't think Fnatic are gonna be able to win out from this position. They should beat team Heretics, but then they got vitality after that, so that means that they would be three. [00:45:53] Speaker C: They have to win both series this week. [00:45:56] Speaker A: Three and six is kind of expected. And then McCoy, they need them to, like, drop to shifters and then also lose out over the next weekend, which, like, probably not gonna happen. Or G2 to, like, lose out and. Actually, no, it has to be G2 because that's the only team that they have the. The win head to head against. So they actually, they have to hope that G2 go on a legendary loss streak here. [00:46:24] Speaker B: Oh, it's possible. [00:46:26] Speaker A: It is technically possible. And if an attic win both of their series, then I suppose they could. G2 could still win one and maybe Fnatic can make it in, but it's not looking likely. [00:46:35] Speaker B: Yeah, G2, G2 have it kind of tough here. They have Navi, Casey, Giant X and mcoh. [00:46:43] Speaker A: They do. [00:46:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:44] Speaker A: No, that last weekend especially. That's a very, very tough schedule versus each other. All good teams versus each other. If you want to consider Gianx a good team. A lot of people are saying that there are frauds, that their 40 start was not correct, and then they lost two series in a row. And now they're gonna be like the weakest team at that last weekend. But still, that's a tough last weekend here. But first, let's talk about this past weekend, because it was a roadshow. The crowd in Paris was fantastic. It always is. The blue wall shows up and pat on the back for the broadcast or the. The podcast here we all got perfect predictions. Not a single one of us had an incorrect series. There were incorrect, like, game counts in the series, but we all got the winner of the series correct. So well done, everybody. [00:47:29] Speaker C: Good job. [00:47:30] Speaker B: Thank you. I had 100. I was actually 100 correct. [00:47:34] Speaker A: You actually didn't put yours. [00:47:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't get any wrong, but [00:47:38] Speaker A: you also didn't get any right. So again, like, what does that. Where does that leave you? [00:47:42] Speaker B: That leaves me with zero incorrect. [00:47:44] Speaker A: Can you say zero out of zero? [00:47:46] Speaker B: Can you say. Can you say the same? [00:47:48] Speaker A: Actually, that's one, isn't it? If you divide zero by. No, no, because you can't divide anything by zero. That's like an error message. [00:47:54] Speaker B: True. [00:47:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, cool. We got there. We got there. All right, Badger this weekend, we had a great crowd. Really fun energy. How was the game quality overall? [00:48:09] Speaker C: Well, when you get matchups like shifters fanatic to start the weekend, there's only way to. Only one way to go from there, and that's up into a Casey demolishing of Navi. [00:48:25] Speaker A: That was unexpected. [00:48:26] Speaker C: That was expected. [00:48:28] Speaker A: We thought that was, like, the only good game that was gonna happen. It was. [00:48:31] Speaker C: That was supposed to be the best series all weekend, and it was. [00:48:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:34] Speaker C: Not even close. [00:48:36] Speaker A: Yeah, Navi didn't show up. I feel like we're really seeing the. The weaknesses in Navi, especially when Mainter is still on these carries. I like them on tanks. Not liking them as much on things like the Ambessa. Thinking back to, like, that one TP play where he just, like, TPS real deep into everybody on KC and even though boost you like mistimes the Nami bubble, he still just dies. And then they lose the Barrett in case he just kind of like, steamrolls a game from there. Navi are still just the Reletch team. And if Reletch isn't popping off, the team is not popping off. [00:49:07] Speaker B: Yep. [00:49:09] Speaker A: Then Saturday or Sunday, we also. Oh, no, no. This was Saturday because this was a Friday. Saturday. Saturday was also kind of snoozers with Navi versus Fnatic. They got the win, but they dropped the game to Fnatic, which is not ideal for a team like Navi that is supposed to be fighting for the top. You want to be able to beat up a team like Fnatic. And then Fnatic was actually able to also take another game off of KC the following day. So Fnatic, this was actually a pretty good weekend for them. All things can considered two zero shifters get a game off of Navi and a game off of kc. That's where it's like, they should be out of the playoffs, but, like, maybe they do some miracle run here. It's not looking mathematically likely, and it's not in their control because they'd have to, like, win a bunch of games and then hope that G2 or MCOID completely fall off, but technically, it's possible. And the fun series for the weekend, surprisingly, was Casey fanatic because Badger, that one was actually pretty close, and they were kind of banger games. Very, very close to the. They were. [00:50:11] Speaker C: They were games of league of legends, let me tell you. Casey really played to the level of their opponents this weekend, which meant that they went down to fanatics level there [00:50:20] Speaker A: for a little bit and at a shifter's level too. [00:50:23] Speaker C: And out of shifters levels too. [00:50:25] Speaker A: Yeah, but yeah, I mean I think that fanatics show that every now and then they are good for one like Poby when he's. Erin. Sorry. Not. Not Poby. Thinking back to old. Old fanatic. Yes, I. I am. Well, I think they do that to the themselves mostly. If you watch Imperialist, how could you. But Imperious did have some good tank gameplay this weekend and Upset is still kind of the heart and soul of this team. Razork also finding some good angles in there. But overall Casey were still the bosses of this weekend. They were the hosts and they were still undefeated. So now the question on my mind is will Casey drop a series this split? They could go undefeated. Yanni, do you think that Casey have it in them to actually go undefeated? [00:51:13] Speaker B: G2mCOID Giant X? I say yeah. I say that they are. If they are really locked in for the G2 and the MCOIL series, they will be able to two owe them. And I think they will not need to be locked into 2o giant X. [00:51:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that if you'd asked me the question earlier in the split, I would have said probably not because that's a tough last weekend. But then you look at current form G2, MCOI and giant X and you're like they none of them have looked like super dominant. Like G2 and MKOI were both 1 and 2 at one point in this. In this split they had to win out their last two to kind of like come back in the standings. Giant X just lost two in a row. So against like teams that they theoretically should have been able to to defeat around them in the standings like Vitality and avi. So yeah, I. I'm excited for that weekend. I think it's gonna be very fun. I think that Casey could do something that's very, very tough and that is go undefeated. Badger, what do you think? How likely is it that Casey can pull it off? [00:52:23] Speaker C: I mean there are going to be in. Is it Spain? [00:52:29] Speaker A: It will be in Spain. Yes. Hosted by McOhle. [00:52:33] Speaker C: Home field advantage for McOil? I don't know. I think Casey when they go to non French roadshows, I don't think they do actually very well if I remember correctly. So it might be a little rough for them. [00:52:44] Speaker A: They just beat mcoi in last playoffs. [00:52:48] Speaker C: Did they? [00:52:49] Speaker A: Spain? I thought that was in Spain. [00:52:51] Speaker C: Was it in Spain? I thought that was in. Maybe I'm getting mixed up maybe with confidence Maybe me when I lie is going on and it's fine. No, I. I think just this. The opponents that they're against, I mean, you got G2, you got McCoy. And I mean, even if they, like, look forward to those games and the giant X game gets to them too, like, they have an opportunity as well. Especially since you're playing three series back to back to back, like. Like that you got to do so much prep leading into it. I mean, they do have a weekend off, but I. We'll see. I. I'll give it like a 20, 20 to 5, 2025 chance that they actually do it. [00:53:31] Speaker A: That's fairly low, but still enough that it's like, yeah, it can happen. Casey's a good team. Hard to do, though, even when your team's performing this well. Kana playing a lot of the range stop laners this past weekend. He got like, Varys. He got vain and he went to fun Varys. It was like the dusk and D to experimental hex plate, which I. I love that build on Varis. When Dolo was planted over an na, it wasn't the dusk and dawn version, but I feel like that's like a little more solo queue, but it still can work. And then Vayne's just everywhere in the top lane right now. Like, oh, my God, that is crazy. I think it's fun for the meta, especially from a viewer perspective, but I can imagine it is a nightmare for top lanerson pro to be like, oh, God, yeah. [00:54:12] Speaker B: Playing against it is dooo. [00:54:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Boost you also fastest player in the history of LEC to get to 500 assists. That happened this week, which is wild [00:54:22] Speaker C: because it doesn't feel. He's only been over there. What, like a split and a half? [00:54:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. It's like, what the hell, dude? That's how. [00:54:31] Speaker C: How are you there already, bro? [00:54:33] Speaker B: Has a big impact in his games, man. What more can you say? [00:54:36] Speaker A: He truly. He's one of the goats. [00:54:39] Speaker B: I want to talk about another na early goats that went to Europe. I want to open the. I want to start a dialogue. How long before Jojo Pune comes home this season? [00:54:53] Speaker A: Oh, you think this year? I think it's not even like the team. I mean, like, after finish aggressively lower [00:54:59] Speaker B: since he's gotten there. [00:55:01] Speaker C: I think someone's got to give Koi misses worlds because the rest of the reason is right. Rest of the region is rising and they're staying stagnant. And he's like, the grass is not greener on this side. And then he goes back to NA and Takes over for God knows what team. I can give you a team at this point. That's too far ahead in my crystal ball. But I just think he goes back to NA and he's playing C9 again. [00:55:35] Speaker A: Dude, that'd be great. [00:55:36] Speaker C: I think Fly. I think Fly is tired of quad by the end of this end of the season and he Fly, Jojo. [00:55:44] Speaker A: Fly Jojo. Crazy. [00:55:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:55:47] Speaker A: So I don't know if that fixes what Fly needs, but hey, that's a conversation for a future day. [00:55:52] Speaker C: That's a. That's an off season topic. Yeah. [00:55:54] Speaker A: Interesting thing to think about. [00:55:56] Speaker B: Glad you and I are on the same page. [00:55:58] Speaker A: MCO have a tough week ahead of them. If you want to go watch any LLEC games from this past weekend, I think Casey Fanatic was a surprisingly close banger. Casey Shifters if you want to watch a game 3 be decided by a late game team fight that a Siver just gets to free Fire. S Lulu goes Burr. But Casey Fanatics, one that I recommend. Talk about this next weekend coming up. It's the last weekend of like kind of normal schedule before we get into the last road show. Week seven is the final week of the LUC regular season. So week six is where we have actually like a lot of teams participating. And it's gonna be the last game for like pretty much all of these teams save for McOil and G2 on Saturday. We have Fnatic versus Team Heretics. We all have Fnatic across the board continuing the trend of Team Heretics sucking. Then Vitality versus sk. We all have Vitality across the board as well. Although I do see that both of you have Fnatic dropping a game to Team Heretics. Do you actually think it's that close between the two? [00:57:00] Speaker B: Yes. [00:57:00] Speaker A: Badger. I'm gonna give this. [00:57:01] Speaker C: This is. These are weird games. You know. Know, it's weird times. Like, who knows at this point you kind of just are playing the guessing game when it comes to this. So I. I say yes, but okay, I'm not. [00:57:17] Speaker A: So yeah, we'll chalk it up to that. That's exactly what after this past weekend is where I have a little more confidence in Fnatic. I think that they actually have been scaling and. And they're starting to. To come online a little bit more. So that's where I think that they're just better than Team Heretics. But a Vitality SK like that one, they're so much better that Vitality should smash this. Then Team Heretics vs Shifters on Sunday. Split Cast Yanni Shifters 21 Badger Team Heretics 2. 1. I put SK with a steel chair. [00:57:48] Speaker B: You spelled Steve wrong. [00:57:51] Speaker A: Oh, I did. I. I put an A in there. [00:57:53] Speaker B: You didn't have snatch steel chairs. [00:57:57] Speaker A: Maybe it was a stolen chair. Okay. [00:57:58] Speaker B: Oh, my God. A stolen steel chair and then hit [00:58:02] Speaker C: him with the steel chair. [00:58:03] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, listen, Shifters and team Heretics have the same amount of individual game wins. This is the best chance that they're gonna have. It's gonna be sloppy. It's gonna be dirty. It's gonna be the match that you should watch this week if you want to watch some entertaining League of Legends. [00:58:21] Speaker A: Honestly, this is one that we probably will talk about next week on the podcast because of hopefully how stupid it is. [00:58:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:27] Speaker A: This is standings. Both these teams are out of playoffs. This doesn't matter. But we do get to see Sho versus the team that just dropped. [00:58:37] Speaker B: Like. [00:58:38] Speaker A: Like, that's in the grudge match. [00:58:39] Speaker B: That's a lot of. Like, you know, that's a lot of motivation. Right? Be like. That is Team Heretics. The motivation is we can't lose to the worst team in the league. Shifter's motivation is we cannot go winless. Like, that is. [00:58:52] Speaker A: Yep. [00:58:52] Speaker B: That drives more motivation, in my opinion. [00:58:56] Speaker A: And this is their last chance. [00:58:56] Speaker B: Let's not lose. The worst team in the league. Yeah. [00:58:58] Speaker A: Their last chance to do it with a roster swap. I actually probably would favor Team Heretics right now just because they've had a slightly longer time to get their jungler accustomed to how the team wants to play. [00:59:09] Speaker B: Clearly, it doesn't matter that much. [00:59:11] Speaker A: Yeah, right. It's going to be messy no matter which way you slice it. G2 versus Navi to close out Sunday, and this one should be a banger. Navi have looked like they can step up to the top teams in the league. Very close win rate overall when game score is taken into account. 12 and 9. There's 6 and 2 in series scores, but 12 and 9 in game scores is actually very close. They don't have a lot of clean series. I do have them just barely edging out G2 because G2 and regular season Lowell, I feel like they always, like, go into that last weekend of, oh, are they gonna miss playoffs? And they're gonna be like, the. Oh, they're the sixth seed going in, and then they're gonna win. And in order for that narrative to be set up, I think Navi has to take this 1, 2. 1. Yanni agrees with the Navi 2 1. Badger has G2 to 1 badger. Why do you think G2 takes us? [01:00:02] Speaker C: I think that G2 is reaching the point that they are. That they're realizing, oh, it's. It's almost MSI time. We got. We guys, we need to lock in. They had that nice little week off, you know, if they didn't have to travel. They had two 2 0s going into it beforehand. Everything is good. The G2 camp is going great. And Navi kind of struggled a little bit. I mean, they lost to. They lost a game to Fanatic and Shifters last weekend. Like, you know, maybe the doubts creeping in their head. [01:00:39] Speaker A: See, you say that, but counterpoint, G2 still have playoffs to get ready for MSI. Dude, they're not in the hot. [01:00:46] Speaker C: Yeah, but they gotta make the dance, bro. If they win this, they're in the. They're in the dance. [01:00:51] Speaker B: So [01:00:54] Speaker C: that's. That's all it comes down to. [01:00:56] Speaker A: Yeah, but again, I think they're gonna leave it to the last moment. They're gonna, like, yeah, lose to SK or Sorry, lose the case. And then beat Giant X as their, like, way to sneak into playoffs. It's gonna be disgusting. All right, well, we'll. We'll see if G2 can do it. That's gonna be a fun match. I think that's gonna be one of, if not the closest match outside of Team Heretic. Shifters, funnily enough, Saturday or Sunday should be bangers because it's gonna be the two worst teams versus two pretty good teams and then two pretty good teams afterwards. So Monday we have fnatic versus Vitality. We all have vitality. Taking it to one Fanatics good for a game, but not the series. Oh, Yanni, did you have something to add there? [01:01:33] Speaker B: No. [01:01:34] Speaker A: Oh, I thought you chimed in. My bad. My bad. [01:01:36] Speaker B: Oh, no. [01:01:36] Speaker A: Closing out Monday accidentally. Six shifters versus MCOI. We all have McWay taking it. I don't have a lot of faith in McOID to take clean series anymore. So I have a 2:1. Everyone else has a 2:0. So there we have it. That's our expectations for LEC week six. We'll see if we can get perfect predictions again. Not all of us can though, because we do have a split cast on a lot of these. Harder to predict this final week and a reminder that we will pretty much know if fnatic's making playoffs. Like, if they lose both of these, they're out. If they win one of them, then they're preying on G2's downfall. If they win both of them, they're praying on G2 or McOH's downfall to try and sneak in because they have the head against G2 and MKOI could just like bomb on that final weekend and lose a bunch. So technically there's two teams they could chase. Everyone else doesn't really matter other than for seating. So let's hop across the pond to the great state of California baby and the LCS for now. Another weekend with no audience, but another weekend with the stage and the players inhabiting it. Let's talk about the matchups. Actually no, first let's talk about the matchup since past weekend. Also on the stage we had four series. Before we get into that. Yanni, top to bottom. Talk to me about the standings in the lcs. Who's in first, who's in last? [01:03:02] Speaker B: Yep. So we got two teams undefeated, but only one can truly be at the top. Cloud nine currently four zero with an eight and two game score. Team Liquid following closely behind with an eight three game score. Then you get down to lion in third place at three and one. And then we we start petering down a little bit as FlyQuest is sitting at 2 and 2. They still have a positive game record at 6 and 4. But then you get into Sentinels, Shopify, Rebellion, Disguise. All of them are 1 in 3 but not all 1 and threes are created equal sentinels importantly 5 and 7 in their game score compared to Shopify in disguise that 2 and 6 and 2 and 7. And then finally we have Dignitas who are 04 and no relief in sight as they play Cloud 9 this upcoming week. [01:03:50] Speaker A: Yeah, the race to the first win is not looking good for Dig because Shifters at least have heretics that they're up against. Dignitas have the number one team currently in the standings. Also note that Cloud 9 and Team Liquid have locked in playoffs. Cloud 9 have locked in upper bracket. Team Liquid have at the very least locked in playoffs where they could be in the lower bracket. But we expect them to still make upper bracket regardless. Yeah, I'll talk about the games that happened Yanni. Lot of two O's on that first day. Anything notable to talk about or is this just basically kind of expectations like FlyQuest, Dig C9, Shopify, Fly. [01:04:29] Speaker B: I mean Dignitas took Fly Quest to a 42 minute game. Yeah, you know hey listen, that comp was pretty sick out of Fly Quest. The Shen Jungle we got the Shungle we have. You know this is a bit of a weird comp because you have two poke champions in the form of Hue and Varus and then you got a couple of meatballs in your. In your Scion and your Shen. And then he got Bard. This is like the most comp I've ever seen in my life. [01:05:00] Speaker A: Dude, we love Bard and Na man, everybody wants to play. [01:05:04] Speaker C: He's just a fun guy, you know. We like having fun. [01:05:07] Speaker B: He's just a little guy, you know. Yeah. Photon didn't have a great game on the gnar. Genius mid fielder, genius of midfielder Palafox could not carry on azir in a 42 minute game. That's not great fight. That's not a good look. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, you gotta carry a couple good moments. [01:05:28] Speaker A: Couple like fights where they almost were able to do something FBI I think was playing best or like better than a lot of other like better than the Lane state set him up to do. Sorry. That's what I was trying to get out of my my brain right there. But it was not enough. At the end of the day, Fly Quest are just a. A team that once they get a lead they love to push it. And game one was kind of a slower bleed to get that lead but once they kind of came online they just ended the game in a flash. Dude, that was like a Baron to game end with the first Baron. That doesn't happen very often in League of Legends. No. And yeah again Photon kind of like just tough, tough looks there losing the Seekers arm. Guard still dying after anyway. And then Geckos just kind of ran over him in lane and side lanes afterwards. I'll talk about the other series then. C9 versus Shopify Rebellion. I have tried. Sorry Shopify fans out there. I've tried my best in any way I can to reverse curse this team and I just can't do it. I can't help them. I. There's nothing I can do at this point to bring this team back from the edge. [01:06:43] Speaker B: We need Danhausen at this point to uncurse. [01:06:45] Speaker A: We need Danhausen to curse whoever Shopify is against. Shout out WWE anybody who still watches that product. [01:06:52] Speaker C: What? [01:06:53] Speaker A: He's a wrestler that curses people? It's a. It's. [01:06:56] Speaker B: It's a great bit. It is hilarious. [01:07:00] Speaker A: But this was a slow bleed of a game where bot Lane was falling behind. Top Lane was falling behind. Contracts when he falls behind usually stays behind. Zinni actually was trying to keep the team in it but could not do it in both games. And yeah, I mean man contracts just usually he can do well against blabber but this was not it. This was not the time. [01:07:23] Speaker B: I gotta. I got a self report here. I did go on record multiple times at the beginning of the year saying that Shopify Rebellion was gonna be the best team in the LCS in 2026. [01:07:36] Speaker A: A couple of us did. [01:07:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:39] Speaker A: Welcome. [01:07:39] Speaker C: Welcome to the Intervention. [01:07:41] Speaker A: The club. [01:07:43] Speaker B: Well, at least we have the A tier, right? That's looking really nice. [01:07:47] Speaker A: Yeah, true. If we just cut off the S tier on our preseason power rankings, we actually did pretty good. Just move that S tier to the bottom. We meant S for. Yeah, so that was supposed to be. [01:07:59] Speaker C: Oh, is that what. Is there any other reason why you would put everybody in S? [01:08:06] Speaker A: Exactly, Exactly. And all my predictions on the broadcast were for the bid. Moving on in LCS this weekend. Sunday was lion versus dsg. Easy cleanup for Lion. We were kind of excited going into this because it's like, oh, Cryo was able to beat Inspired on his debut series. Like, can he do it again? [01:08:24] Speaker B: No. [01:08:27] Speaker A: Inspired is showing that he's still kind of fathers. All these young junglers coming. [01:08:31] Speaker B: I am not going to let the truck come in. I'm not going to let the surgi come in and beat me. [01:08:37] Speaker A: That's honestly not bad. [01:08:38] Speaker B: Yeah, you gotta. [01:08:39] Speaker A: That was a pretty good. Pretty good impression. [01:08:40] Speaker B: Thank you. I do have the European accent in meme as my dad is from Greece. [01:08:46] Speaker A: Beautiful. So you hear it a lot, I assume. [01:08:48] Speaker B: I got. [01:08:49] Speaker A: I got a little bit of Euro Inspired. Went deathless in this series. Did not drop a single kill, and again was just kind of fathering Kyra. And also a worrying trend for disguise. Sajed and lion still struggling in laning phase. [01:09:07] Speaker B: Man. [01:09:07] Speaker A: I want to see them step up at some point. I still have a lot of faith in Sajed as a ad carry. I'm not giving up hope on him. It's still his first or rather second split as a pro and he's just being baptized by fire. I mean, it's a tough competition in the bot lanes. You look across the field, all the good teams, it's like, yeah, their bot laners can step up. And Sajed is learning how to play from behind a lot. It's this split. It's kind of the trend for a disguise right now. [01:09:37] Speaker B: Yeah, like. [01:09:37] Speaker A: And that leads into the actual banger. The actual. Or, sorry, any final points on online? [01:09:42] Speaker B: Yeah, no. Just about 80 carries. A whole NNA. I think that, like, if you talk about individual skill, Rahel might be the worst ad carry in the league outside. Yeah, but like, individual skill. Right. I'm just saying. And like, he's really good. He's really good. Like, that's, that's, that's the Thing. That's the thing. [01:10:04] Speaker A: I have for hell, my top three best AD carries in the league right now. [01:10:08] Speaker B: I'm talking about individual. Individual, like skill level. Like, I think that the team works really, really well for him and he's performing very well. But I'm just saying that like on an individual skill level, I, I and yet, like, he's so good. Like, that's the problem. That's a judge running into is that there's so many good AD carries. [01:10:29] Speaker A: So Jed's really good in team fights. He's a great mechanical AD carry, but he does not know how to play the 2v2 in a way that he doesn't just get as black. [01:10:39] Speaker B: It's because everybody else is that good. They are just that good. The 80 carries have always been really good. [01:10:46] Speaker A: Sadly, if you watch what Lions is doing in Lane, I think it's not just a sajed problem. Lions especially because they keep putting him on like engage champs. Like he's playing Alistairs a lot. [01:10:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:57] Speaker A: And he just from level one loses them to Lane like every game. And then it's like, oh. And so then, so Jed's always behind on CS because then they have to play under turret and the Lions has a reset come in. So Jed's getting dove. It's like it's not all the Judd's fault. I also do put a lot of that on to lion, but I think that the team just has to figure out how the hell to get their bot lane into the game. [01:11:19] Speaker B: Game. [01:11:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Now let's move on because this next year is actually, I think more worth talking about. We, we touched on each of the other ones. TL vs Sentinels was a banger. This actually was a very exciting and close match. Long games and they were pretty entertaining overall. And I, man, I really thought Sentinels could do it. I actually thought that they would be able to take the series against team Liquid. They started like losing early in game three, made a bit of a comeback. But then Team Liquid, they're kind of inevitable. Jan had some really, really good team fights and Jose Dioto unleashed on the Nafiri but was kind of inconsistent. Like the game that they lost Badger. Do you remember when Jose Deodo on the Xin Zhao went mid and like failed the flash W on Xin Zhao. Do you remember the moment I'm talking about? [01:12:12] Speaker C: I think I know what you're talking about. [01:12:14] Speaker B: I can't. [01:12:14] Speaker A: He's. He's trying to get onto Dark Wings and like Quid jumps in, gets the chain and Jose Deodo Then like flash wind becomes lightning. But like is out of range. Like he doesn't flash the full distance. He flashes like three quarters of the distance and is just barely out of range. And then Darkwing just presses R and jumps out of the. Gets away. [01:12:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:12:34] Speaker A: And it was like, that was a little weird. And then there's another moment later. I feel exactly what it was, but it's like he didn't like presses are in time. And then like it kind of up the positioning of the. Of the fight because it like knocked people in the wrong directions. He also got like invaded and like wasn't really tracking Hambach very well. So Jose D had a stinky game too. But even when he has a stinky game, they make it interesting. Like Yan's able to steal a freaking dragon with his true shot barrage. [01:13:01] Speaker C: But if they lose games, they lose games just like close. [01:13:05] Speaker A: Like Team Liquid don't stop fighting. No, they don't hear no three Barons. Three Barons necessary for this one team. Look, we got the first two. [01:13:14] Speaker C: I mean, you just have to say that the game went 48 minutes. It, it, yeah, it destroys my theory that all it Takes is winning one team fight after 28 minutes to set yourself up for success. Whether that takes, you know, another Baron or anything else. Like, just like setting yourself up on the map. Like you in a map, a fight at 28 minutes. You can get so much on the map at this point. It's. [01:13:38] Speaker A: There's a lot, there's a lot late. You just win that fight. There's Elder, there's Baron. Even though Baron's not as strong as it used to be in past times. That third Baron, pretty good. We're kind of going in reverse order of the series because that's how I remembered it. The first game was not close. This one was Team Liquid smashing in a 23 minute, 45 second win. And everybody just was unleashed like, oh my God. Sentinels at Huhi Rumble. And he went 0, 6 and 1. Hey, Yanni, do you want to play some Bot Lane games? I got a new support I want to try out and ranked. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Yeah, go for it. I'm so down, brother. [01:14:16] Speaker A: Hell yeah. It didn't work. I don't want to try this. [01:14:20] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. Rumble. Do you not remember Rumble? Rumble. Kalista. You just have to play it with Kalista. [01:14:25] Speaker A: Oh, are you a Kalista player? [01:14:27] Speaker B: I can. I'm. I'm not like, I'm not like. She's not like an S tier 80k for me. [01:14:31] Speaker A: Oh, we are 100 gonna lose some LP. Let's go. [01:14:34] Speaker B: I can play. I can play it a little bit. [01:14:36] Speaker A: This sounds ridiculous. It was fun. It did not work out for Huhi in game number one, man. [01:14:41] Speaker B: You know why? I'm sorry to cut you off, but they. You gave over Ash Seraphine. I don't know what you were expecting. [01:14:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, like. Well, okay. That being said, they did kill them in lane. Like Rahel was able to land like the flash fourth auto onto Yawn after trading who he. And then almost killed Cora afterwards. So you know, they. [01:15:02] Speaker B: Yep, they. [01:15:02] Speaker C: That. [01:15:02] Speaker B: They absolutely got one. [01:15:05] Speaker A: Unfortunately, from what I hear, Ash their isn't always about the lane and just kind of scales for the team fights. Yeah, that's what we. [01:15:13] Speaker C: Well, they had the. The straight line comp. You had the horn. You had the yone Alti. You had the Seraphine ultis. It's just. It's just one direction. And you can just say fuck you in one direction in particular. [01:15:24] Speaker A: And then Pantheon comes in to cross the T with the. The crossover straight line. [01:15:30] Speaker B: Or you could still in a straight line. [01:15:33] Speaker A: Yeah, true. You could still. You could still ult in a straight line. Oftentimes he was looking for the straight. [01:15:39] Speaker C: Oh, my God. We just. It's just. It's geometry. Straight as an arrow. [01:15:42] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Arrow used to play at na. Now we're playing luxury. [01:15:47] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. [01:15:47] Speaker A: What was Arrow's win rate in his first hundred games? Were able to take this team. Liquid was able to take the series. They looked really good in game one. Games two and three were bangers. Check out that series. If you didn't watch any LCS this weekend, it's the only one that I'd recommend fully. But I mean, if you're a fan, check out all of them. Of course, for LEC as well. But if you only have time for one, TL versus Sentinels is a great one. And again for LEC was KC versus Fnatic. And that's it for LCS this past weekend. Any final takeaways from the weekend from either of you when it comes to LCS or even lec? If we want to go back. Going once, going twice. [01:16:28] Speaker C: They're just teasing us with the C9TL matchup. They're just like. They're teasing us. It's just. It's just the. [01:16:36] Speaker A: We gotta wait for it. [01:16:37] Speaker C: About to meet them. Unmovable object. [01:16:40] Speaker A: That's weird. Week seven on Saturday, the first series of the day. [01:16:45] Speaker B: How the hell are we two weeks before then hello Or Shopify and Disguise supposed to follow that Up? [01:16:51] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't know. [01:16:52] Speaker C: Good luck. [01:16:53] Speaker A: Well, we'll see. Let's talk about this coming weekend and give our quick predictions before closing out this episode. C9 versus dig. We got C9 across the board. Two zero. No surprise. TL versus disguise. We got TL across the board. Two O's and two ones mixed. No big surprise. Yanni, how do you think Disguise get their one window? [01:17:09] Speaker B: TL throws like they have been doing at times. [01:17:13] Speaker A: I'll take it. Lion vs Sentinels is on Sunday. We got lion across the board. I have a two zero, but a lot of folks have two extra. Everybody else has two ones and I think that I would guess that's just because Sentinels have not gone oh two yet. They've gotten a game win against everybody that they've gone up against. Badger, is that your reason I winning? [01:17:33] Speaker C: Yeah, pretty much. [01:17:35] Speaker A: They're a good team. It's crazy that they're going to be one in four. [01:17:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean you're. You're not wrong. [01:17:43] Speaker A: They are going to be the best looking one of four team that we have in the LCS. Then it's FlyQuest versus Shopify Rebellion and we all have Fly Quest across the board. Mixtures of two O's and two ones. Actually, you know what, I'm just gonna put two. Oh, Shopify. So cooked. Dude, like this team is giga depressed. Yeah, I don't. I don't think this roster sticks together for summer. I think that they make big changes. [01:18:05] Speaker C: It's a shame. [01:18:07] Speaker A: It is. But there we go. There we have it. That's LCS and LEC broken down for you for last weekend and into this next week. And let us know what you think about our takes in the community. Discord. A reminder to join if you have not already. Link is in the description wherever you are listening along. And a big thank you to my two co hosts for coming on for this week's episode. It was awesome having you both. [01:18:27] Speaker B: Both. [01:18:27] Speaker A: And Yanni. We didn't get any salad asmr so I thought at some point you would go grab it. No, never happened. Everyone's disappointed. [01:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah, my bad. Guys, that's also Badger whatchamacallit. Oh yeah, the Patreon. [01:18:40] Speaker A: True, true. Oh yeah, that could be some Patreon. Content with a salad asmr. Badger, if people wanted to leave a review, how many stars would you recommend? [01:18:48] Speaker C: I would tell them to give us five stars which is the same number as. As. As what week it's about to be in lcs. Even though it's about to be week six in lec because global calendars are hard, you know. [01:19:04] Speaker A: Yeah, something like that. Yes. Five stars helps out the podcast greatly. If you have time, please leave the review. But most importantly, everybody listening along, especially if you made it to this point in the podcast, just know, know that we love you and we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. [01:19:22] Speaker C: Bye, everyone. [01:19:23] Speaker A: See ya.