League Rundown - Episode 574: Upsets and expectations

[00:00:13] Speaker A: Gets a little too far here. He's gonna have to try and get himself out. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Let me go. [00:00:16] Speaker A: Tillery and the rest of the shots of fire. Zion is just killing the next Zion can eat it single handedly win the game by game by game by game by should be. Oh my God. Stupid. Passes through and manages to the table with Messiah tanking it up. I do not believe he just believe. I cannot understand this game. Unicorns of love. It wasn't a mutant. The Nexus. Hello and welcome to episode 574 of the League Rundown. This is your 2025 LTA split three week four review and LEC split three week three review. This episode is lovingly entitled Upsets and Expectations. I'm your host Kangas and I'm joined by three esteemed co hosts. Up first, fresh out of the can, we got badger. [00:01:27] Speaker C: So anything happen, exciting happen this weekend, guys? I. I can't think of anything that possibly could have happened and nothing comes onto mine. LTA north games this weekend. I don't know. What? I don't know. [00:01:39] Speaker A: No, yeah, no, I think everything went pretty much according to plan. You know, we even pretty predicted it last week. Me and the next guest here on the pod, Mr. Ms. Lpl. [00:01:49] Speaker D: Hello. I'm back. I've made it. We're here. And we got some, some, some good things to talk about tonight. [00:01:57] Speaker A: Happy to have you. Happy to have you. And finally, rounding out the cast. Is it a caster? Is it a cannon? It's random minion caster. [00:02:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And I am hyped right now. There are more Brazilians who have qualified for the LTA Cross Conference than there are North Americans at this point. [00:02:13] Speaker A: Wait, what? That's just. Wait, is it true? Now that I think about it, because I don't know about the school teams, dude, they might actually have like. [00:02:22] Speaker D: I hate to start off on a negative note, but man, the train wreck of trying to figure out what Shopify won from winning that series was like one of the funniest moments I've ever watched. Like a sale just gets baited into saying yes. There's posts going, going out left and right. We're qualified for Texas. And it's like, no, it's not. It's not there yet. [00:02:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Are they not? [00:02:44] Speaker A: Obviously there's confusion around Shopify Rebellion because they make the upper bracket of the knockout stage. They thought that was the same as the playoffs. [00:02:56] Speaker D: The championship. It's like grand. It's called grand finals, technically. [00:03:00] Speaker A: Remember how I was explaining there's basically three parts of our split there's like the. The pick and play our north playoffs and then we get the top teams going. Still playing in LA against the top three south teams until finals weekend. But only championship finals weekend is in Texas. So Shopify Rebellion are in the upper bracket finals for the north playoffs, but not for the championship. [00:03:23] Speaker B: So they have locked a regional, They've locked the Cross conference spot, but they just haven't locked Texas. [00:03:29] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. So. So that. [00:03:30] Speaker D: Because the cross conference is a very long setup. Like what is it? The last four matches, last three matches are in Texas. [00:03:38] Speaker A: It's only two. The only. Only. [00:03:39] Speaker D: Oh, it's only two. I thought it was three at least. [00:03:41] Speaker C: Oh yeah, because it's only like Saturday Sunday. [00:03:43] Speaker A: Because it's like just Saturday Sunday. [00:03:45] Speaker D: Oh, true. [00:03:46] Speaker C: Finals and then grand final. [00:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's. It's confusing. It's hard. It's a hard format. [00:03:54] Speaker D: As a caster, watching Gazelle get baited into it by the player he's interviewing was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Because you could tell he wanted to say no. Like you could see it in his eyes and he's just like, like, yep, I believe so. [00:04:08] Speaker A: But also see in his eyes the uncertainty of like, well, none of us really. [00:04:15] Speaker D: So maybe it's really funny, man. Shout out to Azale my goat. It's so funny. [00:04:22] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Well, that's what was going on in the North. But before we cover kind of everything that happened here and lec, let's talk about news around the world. We got RMC on the cast, so I would love to hear the LTA Sewell update. You were already bragging more Brazilians have qualified for the the individual regions playoffs. I don't even know what to call it. Whatever the championships. [00:04:48] Speaker D: Get me out of this. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Well, the south has been absolute chaos and havoc and because. So okay, the story actually starts last week where the last week of the pick and play phase had some screwy things happening. And so the highest seated team ended up being a bit of an upset and was Red candidates. They picked Pain, which they just played and they picked Pain because they went oh we to them. And that was easier than we expected. So let's do it again. And because of that, our first round of the elimination phase were just rematches from literally the week before. But nice. They were both upsets. Furio won in the week prior and then Catesar spanked them 30 and then Red beat Pain 30 last week which shocked everybody. And Pain came, came back swinging this week with a 3, 1 win. So there were upsets everywhere. Like, we didn't know what was going on down south. Like, it was absolute glorious chaos. [00:05:45] Speaker C: Isn't Vivo Key the team that Trippy's on? [00:05:47] Speaker B: Yes, that. That's coach. The all coach in that team with Trim. [00:05:50] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay, gotcha. I was like, I'm like trying to think. I'm like, all right. Using my limited at LTA Seoul knowledge that I have, I'm just like, I know that Trimby is on one of those teams and I had a one in eight chance of getting it right. [00:06:04] Speaker B: Oh, you're right. And the funniest thing is they split. Everybody's like, oh, Fury's gonna run this. Like, they didn't split too. And then the only other team we're talking about is pain. Maybe then in the regular season or in the pick and play, Pain, like, looked really, really good and looked like they're dominating everything. And then just last week, at the very last week, RID comes in swinging and suddenly it's a three horse race. And then now this, this weekend, Cait stars 30 Fury, and suddenly there's like, there's four teams who can possibly contend. Like, we don't even know what's going on. Cate Stars, K Stars fans were over the moon because they just qualified for the Cross conference. Like, and nobody was expecting it. [00:06:37] Speaker C: That's. [00:06:39] Speaker B: And it was really funny too because in the south they have a lot of like behind the scenes videos. So Loud used to put that out. I think they still do. Payne puts it out regularly and so does Kate Stars. And just this last weekend they put it out of like Trimby and Diss. So the Jungler and the support were arguing like on. On video and they, they put that out there. And on the Gringos Liberados podcast, the, the LTA south podcast. I was just. Actually, no, I wasn't on the episode. I was telling the casters who went on it that, that week that if they put that out there, I don't believe that they're fighting internally. Like, I'm pretty sure they have a plan if they're putting that out there because CL actually polices what gets put out in terms of content. So, yeah, they came in swing, they three zeroed and the south is an absolute chaos, Glorious chaos. [00:07:22] Speaker A: I love it. I love how like often that happens too. I feel like that's the same thing that happened Split one going into, you know, the. When. When all the south teams came up north, I guess. No, sorry. All the north teams went down south this coming split. They're going to come up north, but it's just so hard to predict, which makes it hard for me to catch you up in Fantasy points. I will say I'm still trying to catch up to JAT in Fantasy right now because I missed Week one and I did take a big gamble. We'll talk about it later. I picked all Shopify Rebellion players for Fantasy because I was like, I just in order to catch up I have to predict an upset and hey, maybe rewarded. They still didn't get me a lot but we'll talk about that later. All right, Mozel, what's going on over across the Seas in the lpl? [00:08:07] Speaker D: Oh boy, it's getting spicy. We've got top teams throwing mud at each other. Maybe it's shit, maybe it's mud. Who knows. Got some of the most ridiculous games that we've had. Watching ALBLG literally gave me 50 million heart attacks. But you know, it was fun nonetheless if you didn't watch that one. A little bit of catch up on standings things there's only one slot left in Group Nirvana to make it to the playoff play in, so two teams will be eliminated and we're getting very close to their last games. A majority of teams in the LPL across both groups only have three to four games left to play. Only about a week and a half left in the regular season, which is just actually insane to think about. A couple of lock ins. Though Nip have fully secured first place in Group Nirvana, they have had a hell of a resurgence going on a seven week win streak or at least seven win streak at least in series it's not seven weeks. Edward Gaming is solidly in second place at six and one. They did end up falling to NIP in glorious fashion here recently, but LGD who were the first place of Group Nirvana and Split Number two are tied up in third place right now. Going to be very close with Ultra prime right behind them as of now. But Ultra prime do have a couple more games to play than LGD do in the top group there. Everybody cares where everybody matters. Top Esports are solidly in first place two series ahead of blg. They are already locked for top four so they will be able to choose their opponent at least if they end up in that top two slots after the playoff play in. We and FPX are already locked into the playoff play in, so the matchups are already starting to get decided. There is a hot contention between fourth and fifth at least if Webo can catch up in some of their games they have been looking a little bit better. But so far, I mean two series ahead of that next rung in the ladder is anyone's legend. We don't expect them to fall off. We feel like they've gotten back into form after their MSI hangover. Invictus Gaming are looking damn good finally. Look how they could make good on that promise all the way from the beginning of the year where they said they want to earn a championship for Invictus Gaming once again. JDG and webo though they're in some trouble. I mean the two more teams get to join we and fpx. I'll see who they are and see if they can start that run from the playoff play in. [00:10:27] Speaker A: Okay. Hey I. I love hearing it basically sounds every time you talk about LPL like it's just the greatest hits compilation because all of those orgs have at some point been like either at the international stage one championship happens. [00:10:39] Speaker D: But the league is there for 16 years. [00:10:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And the orgs stay. They don't just leave like America. [00:10:46] Speaker D: They don't leave like somewhere else. We do. Yeah. A couple roster they just a little tie in Shadow is apparently screaming once again for blg. I gotta say it's gonna be nice to see he like or I guess he's not screaming as much anymore because Beituan is apparently coming back from his health issues. You can say it's a health issue, you can say it's a gameplay issue. Whichever one you want to come away with. But because BLG have now lost two in a row, they have started switching things up in scrims. So we'll see what version of BLG we get in the playoffs. [00:11:20] Speaker A: Okay. [00:11:21] Speaker D: What was that? [00:11:22] Speaker A: Was that related at all to that sleep esports post? Because that. That account has been given. [00:11:27] Speaker D: No, that was memeing. [00:11:29] Speaker A: Okay. But there was one that popped off. [00:11:31] Speaker D: I know there is some rumors of Didier getting picked up by blg. People in the community really don't want it because it. It'd be terrible for jj. And he's already said he doesn't like the six man rot. That's literally why he's not part of IG anymore because he hated that they brought in way way earned that starting spot though. So Z is out of a job. He just got released. Invictus said they. They said very passively, maybe passively aggressively said we wish you well. And he's. He's free agent now. One of the best junglers in the league. I feel like it's just kind of floating around, and for the last couple years, we've had that happen to multiple people. I mean, Tarzan literally wasn't playing last spring before he made that giant run. [00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah, it's crazy. There's so many players, so much talent over in the lpl, that sometimes people just aren't to get onto teams. Thank you for the update for the rundown, though, Mizelle Roster News. There's some rumors going around, but nothing that we're able to talk about yet. But keep your eyes posted to some outlets because there might be some stories dropping going into this weekend, at least in the LTA North. Did anybody notice over in lec? No. No, I can't. I can't. Usually I'm, you know, good at the rumor stuff, but. And by good at it, I mean good at leaking it. But this time I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. Yeah, I didn't see anything over in the lec, so if we missed it, let us know in the community discord, along with any other topics, was it. Is there anything else that we're missing in league news? I feel like there was. I say this everywhere. [00:12:59] Speaker C: I mean, I could give a quick LCK update if we want. Okay, let's go. Yeah, yeah, lck. Gen G is continuing to be on this dominant hair there. Okay, let me read you their stat line for they are now 261 in series scores for the. [00:13:17] Speaker A: Oh, my God. They are 53. [00:13:20] Speaker C: Nine in games. [00:13:22] Speaker D: Big format. [00:13:27] Speaker A: Really? I don't know if we could say that. [00:13:28] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:13:31] Speaker D: And they didn't count. Split one in the stats. I don't know, bro. Like, what do I say? [00:13:36] Speaker C: So they are. But yeah. So for the regular season, for rounds one through five, at this point, point, there's three series left. They are 53 and nine. Inversely, if you take Dama or the DN Freaks. You know, Berserker's team. I keep saying it. Berserker. The. The Berserker Piosic team. They are 14 and 51. That puts you into. If that puts anything into perspective. If you flip their wins and their losses, they still have a lower winner win percentage than Gen G at this point. [00:14:04] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:14:07] Speaker C: So insane. So Jen G's first, Hanwha and T1 are currently tied at 18 and 18 and second with one loss separating the two teams. So that's how Hanwha has the tiebreaker at this point. Katie, it's begrudgingly bringing up the rear. Or KT and nonchem are bringing up the rear in the legend group with a 12 and 14 and 1017 respectively. D plus is just beating up on the kids in the other group and taking their lunch money at this point. They've already qualified to the play in section of the the playoffs for the lck because of course, you know, everybody's got a confusing format. LTA's got a confusing format. LPL's got a. Using formula unfortunately does not get better elsewhere around there. [00:14:50] Speaker A: Honestly. LEC shout out to LEC leak actually normal compared. [00:14:56] Speaker D: They're the ones that started this. Don't let them be. They're the first ones to get three. [00:15:01] Speaker C: Yeah, that's the thing. It's. Congratulations. [00:15:03] Speaker A: They did it. [00:15:03] Speaker D: They. [00:15:03] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, so they dragged us. [00:15:05] Speaker B: Down to a level and they're just beating us with experience. This is nice. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:15:08] Speaker D: Exactly. The two groups change the whole format again. [00:15:12] Speaker A: Two groups unnecessary. But whatever. It's fine. [00:15:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:16] Speaker A: So. Okay, cool. So. So LCK gets four world seeds. So it's looking like Genji Hanwa T1 are like the. The three favorites. [00:15:25] Speaker C: Genji Hana T1 are pretty much like if. If they don't make worlds, they better just like, you know, disband the entire organization. [00:15:33] Speaker A: Let's not overreact. [00:15:34] Speaker C: But I. I don't know. [00:15:36] Speaker A: This is. [00:15:37] Speaker C: This is. There's. There is those three teams and then there is a clear drop off. [00:15:43] Speaker A: Badger, quick question. Do you happen to have a speed dial for a truck advertising service? [00:15:49] Speaker C: You know, I don't, but it. It shouldn't take that much research to find one at this point. [00:15:55] Speaker A: Okay, fair enough. For anybody unaware T1 fans known for hiring trucks and having the park outside the office. [00:16:04] Speaker C: Most. Most LCK teams have had a truck epidemic at this point going on. [00:16:10] Speaker A: So truckademic. That's that real trucktober right there. [00:16:14] Speaker C: Or truck Basic truck truckonomics. [00:16:17] Speaker A: Which. Which month is the Ford truck month? It's October. [00:16:22] Speaker C: Toyota Thon. [00:16:23] Speaker A: Oh, that's the Toyota. Well, no, those are different things. Ford has it on a different month, I'm pretty sure. Okay. Anyway, whatever. We don't have to get. [00:16:30] Speaker D: We just lost all this is a rabbit hole. We're going down. We need research. We need backing up of this info. Spend the next hour doing this final. [00:16:38] Speaker A: Question on the LCK update. Who would you say is that four team? Like, do you think there is a. [00:16:41] Speaker C: I mean, I think it's Dom1 that makes the run out of the other group. They've been, you know, kind of scaling up at this point on the other side. They have had some uncharacteristic losses though. So that's my only thing going into it because I just this this KT team and Non Shim aren't really looking that great and it just seems like one good run from Damwon and they can make it back to Sorry D plus Kia could make it back to world thing. Yeah I know. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Okay cool. So it's looking like that those are the expected teams or at least the top three expected teams and then one that has a good shot at it. We'll keep that story updating then as we get closer and closer to Worlds and also as LCK playoffs start happening. We're getting kind of close to playoffs for really everybody. Surprisingly close like this. This split is going by fast but if we did miss anything, any global news around the horn, let us know through the community Discord. You can find a link in the description wherever you are listening. You can also help support the podcast through our Patreon or through our Merch store. Links to both of those are also in the description. With that being with that said though, let's hop into this past weekend of games. We got LTA north and LEC to cover and just like last week, I know we're keeping the same order but I just want to start with LTA north because it's more fresh in my brain and we we gotta talk about the upset guys. It happened. We thought it was gonna be a clean like too fast series but what happened? One of the best of fives. Mazel. We talked about it last week. [00:18:14] Speaker D: Dude, you're new. [00:18:17] Speaker A: I. I kind of knew. [00:18:18] Speaker D: I didn't predict your your subconscious knew and your active brain just did not allow you to make the right decision. We talked about it and I said they were gonna get one game because I was like oh there's no way Contracts and Palafox don't at least show up and ball out for one game. You know what they did? They balled out for more than one game and the the subconscious of Kangas was trying to tell us that if Contracts and Power Fox are going to show up, it's not just going to be for one game. It's going to be for the whole damn series and show up. They did. [00:18:50] Speaker A: Exactly. I will also give big props to the entire team. Like yes it was Contract. Pelifox were like carrying their weight but I think in particular Fudge had an incredible series. Yeah, I want to say I think it might have been SEOs that one player of the series I voted For Fudge, just because I felt that man. Holding your own against Thanatos is a hard thing to do. He held his own very well. And in particular, that Scion game stood out as, like, he's the reason they won. Like, he just, his spacing is. He created so much space in fights and picking Sven in the mid lane right before they're able to turn on the Baron in the game. That was getting away from them too. It's like, oh, that's, that's, that's that good stuff right there, baby. So a real big shout outs to Fudge, who I've been very vocal, like lambasting him earlier this year. And split one. Like, what the hell is Fudge doing? But he turned it on. Split two. He looks great. Split three. I mean, he's all. He's a shoe in for my all pro ballot. Like, if, if Impact beats him again, I'm gonna be very upset with how the voting is going. [00:19:54] Speaker C: Yeah. Especially after the games this weekend. [00:19:59] Speaker A: What were your, your takeaways though, from C9? Shopify, Badger. [00:20:03] Speaker D: What. [00:20:04] Speaker C: What the is going on? That was my first reaction. Like, I'm sitting there. I, I was admittedly, I was at dinner and I was like, okay, you know, like, this is going on. Like, yeah. I'm like, oh, this is a good time to walk away. And then I'm just like, hey, Shopify's up. [00:20:22] Speaker D: I'm like, huh? [00:20:23] Speaker A: What? [00:20:24] Speaker C: What do you mean? Wait, what? I, I was in disbelief when they went up 2:1. I was like sitting there and I'm like, I, I, I need my dinner to come out faster. [00:20:36] Speaker A: Like, the crazy part is like, if you only watch the first game and the first half of game two, you're like, yeah, this is exactly what I expected. [00:20:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, yeah. [00:20:46] Speaker A: The series. Yeah. But RMC game two, the comeback from Shopify Rebellion really kind of got the momentum back on their side. Right. [00:20:54] Speaker B: And I do feel like a large part of it of C9 kind of underperforming on the day. [00:20:58] Speaker A: Yep. [00:20:58] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:20:59] Speaker A: And. [00:20:59] Speaker B: And they, I, it felt a lot like they, they just played into how Shopify Rebellion wants to play. Like, Shopify was constantly just looking for fights and they were willing to just kind of say, okay, but we'll just revel in the chaos of the 5v5s and pray that we can outplay you. And that's how it felt like, like in, in a lot of their wins and C9 were willing to go into that in game two. Like, they had the lead and they. [00:21:16] Speaker C: Just kind of lost a Notorious Scaling champion Lucian. Let me tell you. [00:21:23] Speaker A: Yes to Notorious Equalizer. The great Equalizer dude. Yeah, that's what Otacon's meant for, man. Just like teams ahead started it off and then losing the Otacon fight, can. [00:21:37] Speaker B: I just say too, the joke was they lost the Octagon and they actually held pretty well in terms of gold. Like they weren't giving anything to Shopify at first. It was like they were giving objective after objective, but they were still maintaining gold from side lanes. But they just needed to not opt into the fights and they just need to actually shut down B boy. Like, I don't understand. You've got. You've got a Renekton, you've got a Victor, you've got a Nautil. It's like you've got plenty of ways to just shut down this Lucian if he ever steps up. And they just didn't ever. [00:22:06] Speaker A: Well, I. I will say I think the. The real way that Shopify got back in the otacon was great. But then it was Fudge on the Scion. Ultine's ven mid lane on the Corky. He nails him. When Flash is down, they blow up. Sven have a 5v4 at Baron and C9 to their credit almost won that fight. Like they were actually so close. Palafox is able to back and TP back into the fight as Orianna and that's what really turns things back around for Shopify. Also blabber going kind of psycho mode and diving way past the rest of the team and trying bvoy. But like that fight was on a razor's edge and it just barely tilted onto shopified side. And then they get the Baron and they're able to win the game. And then for that point, SH or C9 was clearly rattled. [00:22:52] Speaker B: And yeah, they hard tilted off that. And it wasn't just that game. Like I think the entire series they. They just got rattled and just tilted off that one. [00:23:00] Speaker A: Blood. Yeah. Game four, a bit of a draft gap, I'd say. C9 definitely felt very comfortable in what they were piloting. I believe that was the. Was that the Senna game? I think that was the Senna game, yeah. And it was just impossible to kill a blabber. Like there's so many heels and shields coming through. So they were able to just like out team fight. But if they didn't have that type of draft, it. It looked like they were actually not all on the same page when it came to those 5v5 team fights. That fight looked a little More coordinated. Which was surprising that that's not what I expected going into that series. [00:23:35] Speaker B: I'm just trying to remember like what they did. All I remember is Paul Fox's LeBlanc. Not like just going in hard. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Yeah. The LeBlanc wasn't even like, it was exciting. It was versus Loki's Akali. And we were getting so hyped during Pick band. Like, okay, this could be big. This could be like the. The winning moment. And then I don't want to see Palafox on that. Like, if you watch what he does in team fights. I. I was like, I was casting the series. I was trying actively to not flame him. Cuz like he'd also like publicly spoke about like hate the casters, man. Like they're so like, they don't know what they're talking about. I'm like, this ain't the. This ain't the argument, brother. Like, you do negative damage. You're just like waiting at a brush for somebody to walk by. And then they don't. Then you just like, well, I missed a wave. Yeah, it's just like weird stuff going on. But his Annie was great. That game 5 was hilarious. Cuz he was like 90% of the team's deaths. But every time he died, he at least got like tibbers off or something down to like, like equalize his death for somebody else. So it's. That was the highest impact like 5 KDA Annie I've ever seen. [00:24:39] Speaker B: Y. That's fair. Yeah. And I think once he picked up the Z, like it was better because he could engage and maybe survive. All his team pull it up. [00:24:48] Speaker A: Crazy stuff though. Nobody had. Or if you did have rather Shop Fire Rebellion winning on your bingo card. Congratulations. It's a big move for this roster because they were so vocal about how like at least pal Fox was vocal on the pros episode that he was on about how this team's not satisfied being third. They're happy that they were able to get top three, but they aren't satisfied top three because they know only two NA teams get to go to Worlds. They want to be one of those teams real bad. So this is first step to get there. Next step might be a little harder as we'll talk about predictions shortly. But first up, the other series that happened, this one went a little more according to plan. Did it really? Well, would you. Would you say a 30 for FlyQuest is not according to plan? [00:25:37] Speaker B: Okay, that. Sure. I. You know what? Even the way the game went through, I guess, was also very to plan. Like, we had another backdoor attempt. Like, what was the meme? I think I saw, like, Fly Quest has never seen an open Nexus that they don't want to back door or something like that. Liquid just got very Fiesta with it as well. [00:25:53] Speaker A: Dude, that Apa Ziggs TP play. [00:25:56] Speaker C: I saw the TP and I'm just like, why is he like further in? Like, genuinely like. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah, just. [00:26:01] Speaker C: Just go for it at that point. Like, you're. You're TPing to like the middle of nowhere instead of like into their face. Like you could have. Like, if you're gonna do it, at least try it. Don't like half ass. Two things. Whole ass, one thing. Come on. [00:26:17] Speaker A: Whole ass, that tpapa. Come on. [00:26:19] Speaker B: And can I just say, in that game too, we're talking about Apa on Ziggs. And like, it's the weirdest thing that happened. There was a singe in that game. And the level one, the early invade that came through was like, absolutely chaos. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, that was like what was a triple kill plus blue buff picked up by Bwipo. Yeah, just like start off lane. Well, not start off, but like very early in the game. That. That was crazy. And then he gets so dies. That game was crazy, man. [00:26:54] Speaker B: That was the highest skill game too, in all of LTA. The split 59 kills in just over 41 minutes total. [00:27:00] Speaker A: Wow. [00:27:00] Speaker B: They just went full fiesta. [00:27:03] Speaker A: Whippo kills, impact solo later in the game too. Like, oh, yeah. [00:27:08] Speaker B: Because I remember looking at that going like, bro, this. This is an LTA stealth game right here. Like, this is a game Brazil is proud of. [00:27:16] Speaker A: I wonder how many solo kills happened in that game. I know that there was the that one. Now they say it. I don't know if there were others. I can't think of any. But either way, high kill game. Overall, that was a very fun one to watch. Entertaining series too. But team Liquid just. They haven't figured out the sauce. Like, even Apa going, what, like 13 and 4 on zigs or something like that, was not able to. To carry on his signature pick. [00:27:40] Speaker B: Okay, guys, I actually do have the answer for that. There were only five solo kills that game and four of them. [00:27:44] Speaker A: Only five. Okay. [00:27:45] Speaker B: Four of them came from Liquid. [00:27:51] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Yeah. Actually, now that you say, I'm pretty sure Apa was able to pick up like two on the Zigs, which is very funny. Yeah. I mean, wild series in terms of like highlight peak moments, but still three. Oh, for FlyQuest. Even if it was like a scrappy three zero I think long are long gone. Other days where TL Fly Quest are pushing each other to five games in Grand Finals like Team Liquid just has not been able to get their stuff together. I do want to give credit still to Yuji. I think he's looking good, especially for a rookie and he's improving week over week. And like I think that the team can get there eventually, but I don't think it's gonna be this playoff run. I mean they're gonna have a tough opponent in their following week. We'll talk about kind of the. The upcoming schedule here. Actually, you know, I guess we could just translate into that. Unless. Does anybody else have like a final thoughts on Team Liquid Fly Quest? They want. They want to get out there. [00:28:46] Speaker B: I will say Spawn look the angriest I think I've seen him in a while that series. [00:28:50] Speaker A: Oh yeah. If he is back in North America now, he's. He's coaches remote until playoff time. That's kind of been the. The forte for Team Liquids. Coaching staff did not do enough to get Team Liquid in there. But talking about the schedule going forward here, C9 and team look would go into the lower bracket. They will await their opponents who are playing this next weekend. C9 will either play DSG or dig. I. I think that's a heavy C9 favor. No matter who makes it up there, Team Liquid has to play lion or Hundred Thieves. Which means either a 100 Thieves has got it back on and they were able to get the win on lion or Team Lucas playing Lion who just beat them in the pick and play phase. So it's going to be tough for Team Liquid. [00:29:38] Speaker B: Do they not the c9 not get opponent selection because of higher seed, c9. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Does get opponent selection. But the. The air quote opponent selection is they get to choose where in the bracket they go. But they have to choose. I believe they choose. [00:29:53] Speaker D: Oh wait. [00:29:54] Speaker A: No, no, no. You're right. They choose after DSG Dig and Lion. 100 Thieves play. But because they're the higher seed, they're gonna choose the winner of DSG or Dig. [00:30:04] Speaker C: Right? [00:30:04] Speaker A: Like, I don't think that they would ever choose lion or 100 thieves. [00:30:07] Speaker B: I don't know if I did. I'm just saying. [00:30:10] Speaker D: You think Z and I might. [00:30:11] Speaker A: I mean maybe. We'll see. It would also depend on how the teams win. Like how dominant it looks if 100 Thieves is like close. But DSG smacks Dig and like looks really good. But expectation is C9 versus DSG dig. Thank you for that catcher. I was just going off of what's on Leakpedia. But then I. Yeah, they. There is going to be another banner ceremony where the higher seeds select where they go. [00:30:35] Speaker C: Another banner. Surely this one will go well, right? [00:30:38] Speaker A: Hey, you know what? They somehow tried their best. [00:30:43] Speaker B: I don't know if this is a hot take. I like the scuff. I think the scuff reminds me of like old school League of Legends buttons, you know? [00:30:48] Speaker A: Okay. [00:30:49] Speaker C: I like it. [00:30:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, thank you. I needed that because. Oh, God. Is it, is it a lot going on up there? Hopefully this next one's in front of the audience, though, that I think that having it in the on stage is way better than having it in this little closet. So cramped in there. But speaking of the matches, I already said them, but we got DSG vs Dig and then lion vs 100 Thieves. Predictions wise for this coming week in both. Best of fives. It's a lot of DSG love. They just beat Dig in the pick and play phase final week and we all think they'll do it again. I got three one. RMC's got three one. Badger and Zelbos have three two. The reason I have a three one, I think that it was still scrappy last time around, but. Oh my God, is Rahel good in terms of just like firepower? He's got to be hands down the best player in this game. Maybe you could have players like Castle or Photon up there too, but just a big fan overall of what that guy's been able to do. So he's like the only player in the north that still has perfect cs, even if the games get chaotic and like, not super high kills. I just think he's gonna hit his item spikes and be able to carry in team fights. Badger, though, why do you have it going five full games? I'm curious. [00:32:04] Speaker C: I, you know, I still think there's some yakety sacks to this disguise team that can make an appearance. I mean, you still have dark Wings. You still kind of his first playoff series on the stage. I, I, I guess first playoff series for this team as a whole because realistically speaking, like, Rahel came in late as well, so. [00:32:27] Speaker A: Yep. [00:32:27] Speaker C: I mean, they've had that. They've had these stage games that they've led up to at this point to, you know, mesh together. But there's still chances that they can throw. I mean, realistically speaking, looking at this series, I think that we're in for a treat. I don't know what kind of a treat we're in for, but I mean, the Last. The last time they played, and that was what, week three. So that was two weeks ago. Yep, it was. It was a 2:1. So I. I'm so excited. I'm gonna be honest. I'm so excited for Castle versus Photon, because both of those guys just. They're boxers that don't block punches. Like, let's be honest for a second. [00:33:12] Speaker A: They just. [00:33:13] Speaker C: They don't know. [00:33:14] Speaker D: Real bloody up around 1. [00:33:15] Speaker C: They just. They're just gonna. They're just gonna punch each other in the face. [00:33:19] Speaker A: They're. [00:33:19] Speaker C: They're gonna end up with cauliflower ear after this series. And it's just. [00:33:22] Speaker A: Has anybody seen. Well, that's wrestling, but has anybody seen the. The. The boxing match? The legendary boxing match between. I forget their names. There's an. And a Japanese guy. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? [00:33:37] Speaker D: No. [00:33:37] Speaker C: No. [00:33:38] Speaker A: Okay, I'll post it later, and maybe I'll push in the community. Discord server can follow along as well. It's basically just this match. It was, like, in the early 90s where this American boxer went over to Japan to fight their best heavyweight. And the match starts, and, like, beforehand, all the press conferences, both of them were like, yeah, I'm gonna knock him out. Yeah, I'm gonna knock him out. Yeah. Like, no, it's not gonna come down to the bell. It's not gonna come down to, like, points, like, gonna. We're. Or somebody who's getting knocked out. Match starts, both of them walk up, grab the back of the other's neck, and just start punching each other. [00:34:07] Speaker B: Was this the UFC one? No. You said 90. [00:34:09] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a UFC match, technically, but they were both boxers. This was back before ufc. Like, everybody was just a generalist, you know, back when UFC actually mattered because it was different fighting styles, but both of them just were just smacking each other's faces. [00:34:25] Speaker B: You might know which one you're talking about. It's like, Don probably, and I don't remember the gentleman. Japanese guy's name. [00:34:33] Speaker C: There's a fight a couple years ago where, like, the last 15 seconds, the guides just, like, met at the center of the ring, touch gloves, and just threw punches for the last, like, 10 seconds. Consecutive. [00:34:42] Speaker A: Incredible. [00:34:43] Speaker C: That's just all. Something like that. [00:34:48] Speaker A: I like that. Actually, I'm gonna have to steal that. Well, the inspiration at least. I'm just gonna post that gif of those guys punching each other and be like, photon versus Castle this weekend. [00:34:57] Speaker C: You're welcome, by the way. [00:34:59] Speaker A: Thank you. There's a chance that slaps on social, so that'll be fun. Day two we have Lion. [00:35:06] Speaker B: Your reference in there too. [00:35:07] Speaker A: He said, well, the cauliflower that's wrestling. That's not boxing, right? [00:35:11] Speaker C: No, they haven't boxed references. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Dude. [00:35:14] Speaker C: Any combat sport you have cauliflower ear afterwards. Let's be honest. [00:35:18] Speaker A: I. I don't know enough to actually talk on this. I don't know why. [00:35:22] Speaker C: Okay. [00:35:23] Speaker A: All right. [00:35:23] Speaker C: Reasonable thing to say. [00:35:25] Speaker A: All right, next matchup. Lion vs 100 Thieves is also all of us believing in Lion. Man, this is a depressing split for 100 thieves. If you really think about kind of how they've performed and how things have shaken out. Sniper getting benched, Dokal coming in kind of felt like it should have been a celebration of Doko's back in the league. But just because he's benching sniper, it. It feels. It kind of stings. It's also hundred these his last split. This could be 100 thieves as last ever League of Legends series. As an organization that is crazy because. [00:35:59] Speaker C: What a way to go out. By the way, if you lose to lion, like that's. [00:36:04] Speaker B: What are you talking about? [00:36:05] Speaker A: I think Lions is good. I think it's actually a very tough one. [00:36:09] Speaker C: I So I think. Okay, historically speaking. [00:36:16] Speaker A: You know what? [00:36:16] Speaker C: Actually never mind. This, this would be. This would be the perfect way for 100 thieves to go out. It's losing to an up and coming organization. It. I. I still think 100 Thieves is so unserious as a. As a team like. [00:36:31] Speaker A: The Doka the. [00:36:32] Speaker C: Dokla late season swap coming in like it they. [00:36:39] Speaker A: I mean you're struggling to formulate sentences. I understand. Just because it is frustrating to watch. Also, not only is it the orgs laughing last or potential last series, potentially River's last series. I mean Korean military, mandatory service and who knows if he'll come back to pro play and if he does, if he'll come back to North America. This could be a series of lasts. 400 Thieves and yeah, I mean expectations. Lion's gonna crush him. I have three. Zero. I think Lion's just a much better team right now. I think realistically I probably should give a game to 100 Thieves. But it just feels like the vibes are so bad over there right now that you know, Lion's gonna be riding this kind of upswing of momentum and like they had a crazy hard strength of schedule to get here. They only played TL who they beat and then fly quest C9 and like that. Those are hard opponents. And you know, I think that team like Hundred thieves is going to be an easier, you know, match for them. Mazel. You do have 100 thieves picking up a win though. You got Lions. [00:37:45] Speaker D: They get. They gotta win, guys. They. They have to win one. All right. [00:37:50] Speaker A: They. [00:37:50] Speaker D: They like legally, I feel like they have to. [00:37:55] Speaker A: They're contractually obligated to pick up at. [00:37:58] Speaker D: Least try for one game. [00:37:59] Speaker B: You know what? Mazel. I think you've convinced me. [00:38:01] Speaker D: They need to let's go. [00:38:03] Speaker B: Therefore, I'm gonna go Lion 3 0. [00:38:04] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [00:38:06] Speaker D: Perfect. [00:38:08] Speaker A: That's just rude if you think about it. [00:38:10] Speaker B: Oh, I don't believe under thieves, man. And like I was thinking, they can probably take a win, but Brazil, they need a win and that makes me think they're gonna choke. [00:38:20] Speaker A: So they have yet to pick up a series win this split. If they lose this series, they will have gone 0 for 4 in their series that they played. That's actually crazy to think about. The team's eliminated after four series played. But then they would have only. They've only picked up one game win. They got two of my team Liquid 2 over Fly Quest. They picked up a game versus Shopify Rebellion. There's a chance that 100 Thieves ends their last split 1 and 9 in game score. You know what, Bizal? I'm with you. They gotta pick up a win. They have to give him one more. One last one for the road. I'm not gonna predict it, but I'm. [00:38:59] Speaker B: Hoping you're gonna regret this guy because like you did last week when you didn't put your money where your Shopify. [00:39:05] Speaker A: You know what? That's a good. [00:39:06] Speaker B: You know. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Am I flip flopping? Okay, fine. I'll go Lion 3 Gag has caught the raz. [00:39:13] Speaker C: Let's go. [00:39:13] Speaker A: I'll go 3 1. I do actually have flip flops with Raz' on them. A fan made them and brought them into the studio. [00:39:20] Speaker B: That's hilarious. [00:39:21] Speaker A: But that's lta north in a nutshell, everybody. That's last week's results and the coming weeks predictions. A reminder that the winner of disguise Dig will Most likely play C9. I'm expecting C9 to pick them no matter what happens in the other half, which is line 100 thieves. But you never know. Maybe they do shake things up. But it'll only get harder for the teams even as they win series, to progress through the lower bracket. That being said though, it's time to hop over to a region who's four format makes a little more sense. I will say simple round robin, even if it is broken into two different groups because we're across the pond now in the lec because we aren't in an elimination phase and we do still have group standings. Let's run through the standings. Badger, let's have you start off. What's going on in Group A? What are the standing shaking out currently as we have one more week of the round robin play. [00:40:14] Speaker C: So starting with Group A, Carmine Core is in first place, I think. Are they technically locked? First place because they. [00:40:23] Speaker A: I. [00:40:24] Speaker C: They beat Koi. So unless Vitality. You know what, we won't talk about that. [00:40:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not confident on the tiebreakers. [00:40:31] Speaker C: So Carmine Core is 3 and 1 with a 74 game score. Second place is MCOI with a 2, 1, 5, 3. And then Vitality right behind them with a 21 and a 4 3. Giant X is in fourth in that last spot to make it to the next round with a 1 and 2, with a 44 in games. And then bringing up the rear. Yeah, and when I say rear, I mean the rear. [00:41:04] Speaker A: They are. [00:41:05] Speaker C: This team is ass. It is Navi with a 0 and 3 and a 0 and 6 for Group A. Yeah. Yeah. [00:41:17] Speaker A: Zero wins picked up Navi. Look like I used to care. I used to have faith in Larson as a player and a human being as a. [00:41:34] Speaker C: A starting job in a major region. I will say a major region because there's. He's the perfect candidate to be imported to LTA for some reason. I. I will shave my head. [00:41:49] Speaker A: Okay, you know what? I'm gonna hold you. Will you shake on that? [00:41:54] Speaker C: No, I. I really shouldn't. I should be responsible because the minute I do that and he ends up as like. Like the mid laner for, like, disguise. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Next year, I. Oh, no, no, it's okay. [00:42:09] Speaker D: Because the skies aren't gonna make it back into LTA north, so it's okay. [00:42:12] Speaker A: They do have to go into the relegation matches. Yeah, don't. [00:42:18] Speaker C: That team's better than Luminosity. Come on. [00:42:21] Speaker D: There's no. No, no, no. I'm sorry. If they go face to face right now, Luminosity snaps them three, zero, easy. [00:42:31] Speaker C: Oh, I. I think you're delusional. [00:42:34] Speaker D: Luminosity is a machine. [00:42:38] Speaker A: Well, hey, I can't wait for that one. But at least for now, we're still talking about what's going on here in lec, but we will have a full episode about the. The promotion series and matches once they start coming around. So table that, Mizel, because we'll go back to it. We'll come back to it. But Navi really struggling, man. It hasn't picked up a game win, let alone a series win. But that's group A. We'll talk a little bit more about a surprise upset that happened in that group this past weekend. But rmc, talk me about group B, what's going on in the standings down there because big update happened this past weekend. [00:43:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know if I'd say down there when it's kind of up here because the top is clearer there. G2 and Fnatic. That will was the highly touted match from last week at I believe Kangas, you were espousing, you were preaching the way of that match it happened and spoiler, G2 won. [00:43:33] Speaker A: So that was a terrible series. That series sucks. Unless you're a big G2 fan. But like God. [00:43:41] Speaker B: Well, we'll get into that. There was certainly there was an upset or maybe there wasn't because of the way the bot lane went out. But that did lock G2 his first seat coming out of Group 2B and Fnatic as second seed. So the top is clearer there, but the bottom got kind of murkier because SK got the win over Heretics and that means that the upcoming BDS Heretics match gets kind of spicy and we could potentially see sort of a three way tie and I don't know what the tiebreakers are. So all three of the lower teams are still in contention. Bds, SK and Team Heretics. Currently BDS and SK are third and and fourth respectively with BDS having a slightly better game win record. Two wins, four losses. So SK's two wins, five losses and then Heretics is right behind them with zero series wins. But somehow it's still two wins and six losses. So they're picking up wins and their losses still. [00:44:31] Speaker A: Yeah, and because of that, like you said, it gets really shaky when we look at this kind of coming schedule. It's. Any one of those teams can still get knocked out. It's not like BDS and SK because they're third, fourth are secure. Team Heretics actually, actually does have a shot. Whether they can actually capitalize is up to them. But that's the standings. Let's talk about how matches went. So up first we had McCoy versus Navi and McOid. Quick work of a man. Navi suck that one. Not much to talk about. But the next one I think there is a little more to talk about because this was SK versus Team Heretics. I actually thought Team Heretics would be better. I. I had higher expectations for Team Heretics as a whole. I just felt that sk like with all the Constant roster swaps, constantly changing things. They have like Abadage skins DNDN in this split that they were gonna have a really slow start and just not do anything. But Abadagi looked clean. SK looked a lot better as a team and team heretics just kind of wasn't able to hang with them overall. So shout outs to SK, then badger the next game. Navi vs Vitality. This is one. I believe I pred predicted that Satan would win this one two zero. [00:45:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I. I see that prediction. [00:45:55] Speaker A: I. I gave myself credit for that being a correct prediction. [00:46:00] Speaker C: I think this is. I think this is the series that made me realize that that actually, no, it just reaffirmed that my belief that Larson is a fraud. Like it's. [00:46:12] Speaker A: Oh my gosh. [00:46:13] Speaker C: I don't even. [00:46:13] Speaker B: What are you talking about? He had the highest KDA on his team in game two. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Is that what we're judging? [00:46:24] Speaker B: That's a joke. When Navi went 016 in game two, they didn't get a single kill. It's just that Larson died a little bit less, that's all. [00:46:31] Speaker C: Yeah, I was gonna say he didn't sprinted as much, but it just is. It just feels like this team. Because if they lose. Well, I guess when they lose next Tuesday, they're. They're done till like next year, right? Like this is it it. Oh my gosh. [00:46:50] Speaker A: Welcome to the league, Navi. The brand new guys. [00:46:55] Speaker C: Thanks for the. Thanks for joining in the partnership. [00:46:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:58] Speaker C: See you in 2026. [00:47:00] Speaker A: You got to play four series. Get the hell out. We don't want to talk to you anymore. [00:47:05] Speaker B: Yeah, at least you don't have to defend their spot like they would if they were in the lt. [00:47:09] Speaker A: True. You know, that's a. That's a good point actually. [00:47:12] Speaker C: You know what? They should have just. Whoever wins EU Masters, I. I don't see this team being relatively even close to what it is right now in. In six months. So I have a feeling that the roster is going to get blown up and we are to in for a. [00:47:32] Speaker A: Treat to give kind of just like a. A general summary. This is like real high note here everybody how na' Vi's entire weekend went. Because first off, they had mc. They had vitality against vitality. They got. What was it? One Dragon. One Dragon one. [00:47:54] Speaker C: Four turrets and seven kills in two games. [00:47:56] Speaker A: In two games. And it. It was not much better versus M and Coy. [00:48:03] Speaker B: They got a lot more kills against MK. [00:48:05] Speaker A: 28 kills. You know, fair that. That was a scrappier game. [00:48:08] Speaker C: I think MKOY was Just farming stats against them. Let's be honest for a second. They could have been finish those games a little bit quicker. [00:48:14] Speaker A: I, I those were especially Games 2 was very long. That was almost a 50. Yeah. But even Navi with a arguable scaling composition with something like a rise being able to take a side lane. But it's tough when you have like a Wukong Jays. Yeah, I don't even know what they were trying to do with that one. But Navi struggling still. Also somebody who struggled badger the second series of Sunday Fnatic G2. Man, I thought this was gonna be the match. I thought this was gonna be. [00:48:47] Speaker C: This was the best gameplay we were gonna get. El classico. You got Kobe finally coming in to play against caps like this. Rising up and coming Korean mid laner under the trained under the shadow of faker for the last couple of years. You know, potentially his replacement when he retired. I thought Poby was going to be the next guy at T1. I'm like, oh my gosh. And then he comes over to Fnatic and it's like oh man. You know, Sunday August 14th or whatever it was. Circle it on your calendars. Or 17th. Yeah, whatever. [00:49:22] Speaker A: I go to the days Kobe topping the charts in KDA in differential and gold. [00:49:29] Speaker C: You know, the greatest mid laner that Europe has ever produced. All the storylines coming into it and Poby just gets smacked. [00:49:39] Speaker B: Here's what everybody forgot. He said in the shadow of faker. Cap solo killed faker. [00:49:44] Speaker A: Oh, wait a minute. That's a good point. [00:49:47] Speaker C: What's God to a non believer? I guess at this point, I mean. [00:49:51] Speaker A: Yeah, Poby combined 210 and 5. That's a 0.7 KDA. It wasn't good for anybody on the team. Upset was really the only one with any semblance of like hand hands in this series. Everybody else basically just fell apart. Ah, that's rough. But hey, I mean that is also G2. I, I think the G2 expectations, we weren't exactly sure after they had their vacation at msi. You know, shout out to N A teams for putting them in their place. But then, you know, we, we just like didn't know what form of GT we were gonna get. Especially when fnatic looked this good. But dude, G2 did not skip a beat. They got one more series to play. We'll talk about that shortly. And G2 could just go undefeated in the Swiss stage here in group B. Yeah, I'm just sad it didn't deliver because this had the chance of being like the best Series. But the best series is actually coming up here soon. And by soon I mean the next one we talk about because Badger, what happened next? But the upset of the weekend here as KC versus Vitality. KC were destined to be undefeated in series civil war. [00:51:03] Speaker C: You know, in group A. They were, they were set up so perfectly. It's like, oh, Vitality last game, you know, Vitality just got off of this series against. Yeah, they got the warm up reps in. It's like, oh yeah, they're coming in. It's like Casey, you know, one of the best teams in Europe. You know, you got the. [00:51:25] Speaker A: The prodigy in ad carry against Carsy. [00:51:28] Speaker C: I mean come on. It's Carsy and Tar. Carsy and Fleshy versus Kalist and Targivas. Like, oh, no chance. Nothing's gonna go wrong with that. Yikes. One of the better junglers in Europe. Vladi can control the mid lane. No. Well, I mean, yeah, they did for game one. Like game one was 26 minutes. Stomp, slap. Vitality came out, got punched in the face. Naknaco had a really, really not so fun time. And then we all just like, oh. [00:52:01] Speaker A: I think we also get to see why Ynara is so high prioritized. Like she's getting blue one to all over the place right now. And Callist on this champion really unlocked kind of like the potential of it. Mizell, I know you guys play a lot of Ynara, even like play testing before release piece. Like what's she doing over in the lpl? Is she like actually just the best? [00:52:21] Speaker D: She's busting, bro. Yeah, yeah, she's first pick. If not, she's banned on red side like nine times out of 10. [00:52:28] Speaker C: She's got like the strongest level one we've ever seen in any iteration. [00:52:33] Speaker D: If you can auto attack eight times. [00:52:35] Speaker C: Yeah, no, you only have to auto attack four times on the enemy champion. [00:52:43] Speaker D: So. [00:52:43] Speaker C: But yeah, no, I. [00:52:44] Speaker A: She. Her. [00:52:46] Speaker C: Her dueling potential Level 1 is really good and it's really. She just does so much damage like she's. That I can't wait for. Like I need somebody to go ahead and find a bug with this champion because like I. She's gonna be. She's gonna be red side band or blue side B1 perma for like the rest of the year. Going into worlds too. If nothing changes with this change camp, we. [00:53:10] Speaker A: We will have a couple of more patches. Obviously the world's patch is always one that's kind of built up to. But even in LEC and lta, I believe schedule wise we should have two more patches before like the. The playoffs or like finals. Because the way the schedule works is every two weeks we have one going into this next or not this. I don't think this coming week about the weekend after. But then we'll. There'll be one right before playoffs hit and then we'll be locked for playoffs. But there is still chances is for her to get adjusted ahead of playoff scenarios. But as of right now, yes. Like the best AD carry that you can go for if you're able to get it on the blue side, man, it's such a buff. And then you have to ban it for the rest of the series, even if you get red side later on, because that's how fearless works. Long story short, though, that was game one for Casey. Game two and three scrappy games, kind of slower in game two until Vitality was able to run away with it off of the back of Carsia on Ziggs, of all things. And then also I never remember how to say his name. Cy. Jack Saja. It's not Sajak because I always want to say Sajak, but then the Cashers always call him something different. I'm always like, wait. That's how they say. [00:54:21] Speaker C: Honest. [00:54:23] Speaker A: But game three was the real exciting one because that was kind of a bloodbath between both teams just scrapping back and forward. Not. Not like crazy high kills throughout. But they're always like fighting each other for stuff. And then Fleshy on the. On the pipe fake was very, very exciting. Cars. He got giga fed off of fleshy setups. So big surprise, Casey. I thought that they were gonna be the big dogs of group A, but now, I mean, again, I don't know exactly how the Tyberker standings work. There's a chance I think mkway can take it from them if it goes series and then game score before head to head. Because McCoy could actually have a better game score. [00:55:02] Speaker C: We're a Vitality two away from Vitality being the first seed coming out of. [00:55:08] Speaker A: Group A. Oh my God, you're right. And they play. Oh, that's gonna be. Yeah, they play. [00:55:15] Speaker C: What the hell? [00:55:17] Speaker A: That's gonna be very interesting. And you know, I'll even say it if Vitality 2 1, Mkoy. They take first seed because they will be tied in game score. But they have the head to head against Casey then. [00:55:29] Speaker C: That's true. They just have to wait win like. [00:55:32] Speaker A: Oh my gosh, all Vitality has to do is win versus MCO in their first seed. That. Oh, that would be a crazy world to live in. Well, we'll talk about the likelihood of that as we get into predictions, but there's One other series G2 made quick work of BDS as well. G2 off to a roaring start here. They hadn't played the first week, and then they played one series last week, two series this week. They have one more series this coming week. Yeah, they're looking like they're just gonna go into fear. [00:55:57] Speaker C: Tweeted. [00:55:58] Speaker A: So with that said, let's talk about next week and our predictions. We have four best of threes and two days of games. But, Badger, thank you for reminding me, because I keep forgetting it's gonna be Monday and Tuesday. That's right. We had some weekday games here for the lec. I don't even remember them talking about that on broadcast. I don't really watch a lot of, like, the Destiny stuff in lec, but. [00:56:22] Speaker C: It was very, like, very quick in passing that they had. They brought it up. Is it just because vct. I don't know why they're playing on Mondays. [00:56:35] Speaker A: Maybe there's like a holiday over in. In Berlin. [00:56:37] Speaker B: Don't they have a closet or something they can check them into like they do in the OTA when Valerie's playing? [00:56:42] Speaker D: No, that's a. That's a right reserved strictly for lta. [00:56:45] Speaker A: Come on. Yeah. Yeah, that's. That is our honor, North American fans. [00:56:49] Speaker C: That's what we do best. [00:56:51] Speaker B: These parts come out of clothes or get into cloth. [00:56:53] Speaker D: I gotta say, just on the note of the closet. How crazy. I know we're going. I go back to LTL, but how crazy is it that 100 Thieves is last series in all of the history of their League of Legends stuff would potentially be in front of nobody. I know David talked about earlier, but that's just wild. [00:57:11] Speaker B: What do you mean? It's in front of all your fans, Misselle. [00:57:14] Speaker D: In front of the wall. [00:57:15] Speaker A: Oh, my God, stop. [00:57:18] Speaker C: They're about to be dead. You don't have to do it. Do it to him like that. [00:57:21] Speaker B: I gotta do it before they're dead. [00:57:23] Speaker A: When you look at the dichotomy of their first match, though, back in 2017, franchising first hit. It's optic versus 100 thieves. It's Victor or. Sorry, not Victor Hector in the audience. Notable, like, I don't remember if he's CEO or owner or what, but he was like a big head over at Optic and, like the face of the brand vs. Nade shot owner of 100 Thieves in the audience. Optic wins it. And like. [00:57:47] Speaker D: Like, it's the Steve. Reginald. We needed, but never. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, crazy. [00:57:54] Speaker D: Sorry, sorry, sorry. I just had to get the dig in you. [00:57:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:57:59] Speaker B: Take a shot at LEC and bring us back to the oec. You know, we were praising the LEC for having the least screwed up format and then they have the most screwed up dates. [00:58:06] Speaker A: You okay? You know what? Get the rass rmc. Thank you. I appreciate that. We needed that. But anyway, it's going to be Monday and Tuesday for the games. And up first on Monday it'll be SK versus G2. We all FG2 sweeping this one and going undefeated in Group B. Then it's BDS versus Team Heretics. This is where things get a little interesting. It's harder to call this one based on just how like close Team Heretics has made some of their series. And this is the most impactful one because if BDS can clean this one up, then Team Heretics are knocked out. They didn't pick up a series. If Team Heretics can win this, it could come down to how many games it takes them. And there could be like weird tiebreaker scenarios between bds, SK and Team Heretics. So keep your eyes on that one. There's a lot of implication for just group B and who's making it out based on how top dominant this group turned out to be. But I got BDS 2. One RMC, BDS 2 one badger. [00:59:01] Speaker B: No, no, I'm changing mine. [00:59:02] Speaker A: Right? Just changed it. [00:59:04] Speaker D: Changing. [00:59:05] Speaker A: Do you just want chaos? Is that why? [00:59:07] Speaker B: Damn right. That is the maximal chaos. [00:59:10] Speaker C: About the only reasoning you can give in this situation. Because as. As much as I talk, Navi Heretics is kind of just like on the same. It's such a shame that we're not going to get the Navi Heretics game at some point. [00:59:22] Speaker A: Oh my God. Could you imagine that would only. Only an LTA are we allowed to. [00:59:28] Speaker C: Do we need a best of five of it? Like genuinely I would. [00:59:31] Speaker B: No, no, no. [00:59:31] Speaker C: I would. [00:59:32] Speaker B: No, no. We are not getting a best of five of that. That's the worst of five. [00:59:36] Speaker A: Worst of five, dude. Let's have Navi and Team Heretics do a best of five. Loser plays the loser of Dignitas 100 Thieves. That's. [00:59:45] Speaker C: That's how we need a bottom of the barrel bowl. Like. [00:59:48] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. See what happens. Give the 100 Thieves guys one last thing to do so they can play in front of an audience. But that's Monday's games. Tuesday we got two more series ahead of us. Vitality versus mcoi. And despite the fact that vitality could if they two oh this or two won this. They just gotta win. Win. Take first seed. We all still have MCO taking the series. Bold of us to assume we might have just cursed JoJo. Man, that's crazy. [01:00:15] Speaker B: If you really think about tempting me to change my extra maximal kill. [01:00:20] Speaker A: I mean, if you're doing it for the bit, you might as well commit to the bed. [01:00:23] Speaker B: I'm doing for you, Jojo. I'm doing this for you. [01:00:26] Speaker A: Okay, thank you. We will all. RMC has changed it to Vitality. You can go 2 0. You can go 2 1. Doesn't matter either way if they win the series. According to my calculation, they should. Two one would put them at tied series score with kc. Tied game score with kc. But they have the head dead because Casey's played all their series already. They don't have any more games to play. [01:00:45] Speaker B: Excellent. I mean, I still want JoJo to, like, win, so. [01:00:48] Speaker A: Okay. Okay, fair enough. I just did something to the. To the sheet. I don't know what I did. Okay, there we go. We fixed it. Final game of the group stage is going to be be Navi versus Giant X. We all have GX taking this one too. Oh. Meaning Navi would not pick up a single game win as an organization. Welcome to the LEC Navi. What's their full name again? It's like Natus Vincere or something like that. Yeah, I don't even know what that means. What? Does anybody know what that means? [01:01:21] Speaker C: Like when the day or it's not like. Or Born for Victory or something like that. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Okay. I kind of like that. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Born to Win. [01:01:29] Speaker C: Yeah, I think Born to Win. [01:01:30] Speaker A: Born to Win. Well, maybe in a. In the next life. That's our expectations for the coming weekend, though. Make sure to stick around and set your calendar for LEC for Monday and Tuesday. It's gonna be a little odd, but we do still have LTA north on Saturday and Sunday, so that just means more days of League of Legends. There you go, everybody. We made. We found a positive spin for for it, but that's gonna be it for another episode of the League rundown. Mazel. If everybody at home were so inclined, if they had the time, if they really wanted to help out and could leave us a review. Do you have a recommendation for how many stars they could leave us? 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