League Rundown - Episode 575: “Lyons are lambs"

[00:00:12] Speaker A: Gets hit. Kimmy kids a little too far here. He's gonna have to try and get himself out. Let me go. Tillery and the rest of the shots of fire. Zion is just killing the next Zion can eat it single handedly win the game by game by game by game by should be oh my God. Stupid passes through and manages to the table with Messiah tanking it up. I do not believe he just believe. [00:00:42] Speaker B: I cannot understand this game. [00:00:46] Speaker A: Unicorns of love. It wasn't a mutant. The Nexus hello and welcome to episode 575 of the League Rundown. This is your 2025 LTA split three week five review and LEC split three week four review. This episode is lovingly entitled Lions are Lambs. I'm your host Kangas and I'm joined by three esteemed co hosts. Up first we have fresh out of the can, it's Badger. [00:01:28] Speaker B: I I yeah, I'm here. Hi. I I'm sorry, I'm looking at something that will be rele a future rant this episode. [00:01:37] Speaker A: I feel like every time I introduce you for the last couple of weeks you've just said well you, oh you. [00:01:41] Speaker B: Always, you're, you've been introducing me first and I'm just like that's throwing me off. I need to be prepared for it. Like. [00:01:48] Speaker A: Okay, all right, all right, well we'll give you some more time to warm up and do it for next week. But also joining us on this week, welcome back, Bickle. [00:01:55] Speaker C: I probably picked the least eventful week to come back because damn, this week was rough. [00:02:03] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a couple upsets we could talk about, but outside of that, not a lot in one of the regions, at least in terms of newsworthy things to cover. But then also joining us once again, our representative covering all things lta south. We got random minion, caster. Welcome, rmc. [00:02:20] Speaker D: Glad to be on loan from the south up here. I don't know what the rules are. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Around that, but. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Trade. [00:02:29] Speaker A: The academy loan from rmc. [00:02:32] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I do cover the equivalent of the Academy there. Sequito Desefianchi. I actually just streamed that on Monday Tuesday. So yeah, I guess that gets me around the rules of no loading between tier ones. [00:02:43] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. Well, you know what, since you brought it up, let's just start there. Usually I do the around the world updates, but there was a funny bit of information that came out if you were paying attention to the news cycle this last week, Zamudo was meant to be the starting top laner for lion here in lta north and he was, according to all public verbiage, on loan to Isiris down in LTA Sewell. Now, from my understanding and from what I have heard from my Riot sources, you are not Tier one teams are not allowed to loan players. Tier two players can be loaned, but Tier one player starting players cannot be loaned. They can only be traded. So all the internal documents specify it is a trade. That's what Riot has claimed is like. No, like everything that they have submitted to us is a trade proposal. Not like there are no loans, but lion are just like, only saying no. Yeah, he's on loan. We're loaning about. We want him back. We're going to bring some back. Don't worry about it. So we'll keep our ears to that story as things go on, but it's not alone. [00:03:46] Speaker B: It's not a trade, it's a loan. We're bringing him back. [00:03:50] Speaker A: Yep. They're going to pay for it. They're going to pay for it, but. [00:03:54] Speaker D: They literally kind of are. [00:03:57] Speaker A: True. Yes. Because rfc, what happened as soon as. [00:03:59] Speaker D: A Mudo made it okay, I think we. I can't remember if we touched on this last week, but he's joining Iseris down in the LTA south, who is a tier one team, but they were facing an elimination match this last weekend, so Zamuto might have flown all the way to Brazil to just play one series and then that's it for Tier one there, potentially. [00:04:20] Speaker A: What a wild journey. [00:04:21] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:04:21] Speaker C: I will say it's really sad that it's easier for the actual median to get a Brazilian visa than it is to get a US visa. [00:04:29] Speaker D: Yeah, right. That's. [00:04:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:31] Speaker D: Well, I think Brazil is pretty chill with their visas from the sounds of it, so probably not too big of an issue. But. Yeah, so Zamuto, he joined Istros for the match and he made his debut there. Go watch that. That actually went all five games. I won't speak to the quality of that series, but go watch it. And then they lost. Spoiler. So Zemudo actually played one series in Brazil and now he's out now, thankfully for. Well, thankfully for him, maybe not so much for the org. Isrus is the guest spot. So they do have a promo relegation series coming up after the end of the split. [00:05:05] Speaker A: Okay. So it seems almost like the. [00:05:11] Speaker B: You. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Know, old doublelift situation, which I believe that is what spawned the rule that you can't loan, like, Tier one players anymore because Team Liquid obviously pick it up double left to. To, you know, play for them. Although I believe he was Released from TSM officially. You know, that's all. Whatever. [00:05:28] Speaker B: Officially with like heavy quotations, right? [00:05:31] Speaker A: Yeah, but. But this kind of feels similar to that in like, yes, they want somebody else to come in and help them out. Even if they get eliminated in playoffs where they were, they can still have a deeper run in their relegation matches and earn their spot again. [00:05:46] Speaker D: To be fair, Devilift at that time was actually good and established and Event Zamuto right now is still a. [00:05:53] Speaker B: Right now. [00:05:54] Speaker D: Zamudo is just a rookie at this point. And also I believe, you know, we're discussing this a little bit beforehand. We think the way Zamudo has gone around this was because he's not technically a Lion player. Currently he's on the Lion Academy roster. [00:06:10] Speaker A: Or because they do have an academy team. Most of the north teams do not have academy teams. Like that's something that once they no longer had the requirement, they all dropped them. But lion does still. Yeah. So yeah, interesting to think about, Interesting to see kind of what happens with that story, but we just wanted to cover that one first because RFC brought it up already. He is on loan to us here on the podcast as well. But with that said, I want to get around the world, catch up on kind of happenings elsewhere. We haven't had an LCK update, actually no, we did have one last week. [00:06:44] Speaker B: But what's. [00:06:45] Speaker A: What's going on? [00:06:45] Speaker B: Not much has changed. Gen is still really good. DN freaks took another won a series against okay Savings bank. So they are now up to 4 and 24 in series score. Hey, progress. That's a 14 win rate. Let's fucking go boys. You're doing great. Meanwhile, I have to do the obligatory. Genji is 271 with a 55 and 10 game score. And that's 12 less losses than second place Hanwha. And that's a. That's just a wild stat to be like, yeah, we've lost 12 less games than the team below us in this. The team right below us in the standings. [00:07:24] Speaker A: Dude, is this a like record breaking run from Gen G across any major region? I can't think of a year, a full year where somebody's been this dominant. [00:07:38] Speaker B: Oh, full year. [00:07:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I know. They're only counting win record for split two and three. Their first split didn't count. Really? [00:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Cup or whatever. [00:07:47] Speaker B: I mean they still were like one series away from making it to first stand. Yeah. Did it. I did it right there. Let's go. It's August and I finally said it Right. [00:08:01] Speaker C: Last year too, right? [00:08:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Genji last year was really good. I'm just trying to think, like, teams in the past. I mean, because we haven't 34. I mean, not all three splits, but, like, the two. [00:08:14] Speaker A: Genji was 34 and two last year in series score. [00:08:18] Speaker C: Yes. [00:08:19] Speaker A: So in total, they are 61 and three. Yeah. [00:08:25] Speaker B: In the last two years. Yeah, this team is pretty good. [00:08:30] Speaker A: I don't know if you. [00:08:31] Speaker B: I don't know if you've noticed that, Candace. [00:08:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, they're pretty good. [00:08:36] Speaker B: I've heard they are the. I would say they're the gold standard. The last couple of years of domestic play, like, I mean, internationally, they have won MSI a couple of times and, like, had a deep worlds run, but, like, even then, just. [00:08:50] Speaker A: Baker needs those world skins, baby. [00:08:51] Speaker B: They can't take those away from them. [00:08:54] Speaker A: I'm telling you, they have a lever. The skins team has a lever. [00:08:57] Speaker B: They're just like. [00:08:58] Speaker A: They pull and it buffs. [00:09:00] Speaker B: They broke the glass on the pool party. Ari skin with the bath towel. They're just like. It's like, right next to it. It's the break glass for fakers. Fifth world title, and they just broke the re1. So they're like, shit, we're at a. We're at a glass to break, guys. What do we do? [00:09:14] Speaker A: Yeah, this is to avoid another round of layoffs, everybody. [00:09:17] Speaker C: Here's the thing a little bit. They had to break the faker skin glass twice because they gave him two skins. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:24] Speaker B: Also true. [00:09:26] Speaker A: I wonder, by the way, I wonder how the Uzi hall of Legend skin is selling. I haven't looked into those numbers at all. [00:09:32] Speaker B: I have seen it a bunch, so I think it's doing pretty well. I think I've seen that one more than I've seen the Ari skin, if I'm gonna be honest. [00:09:41] Speaker C: I'm guessing the Ari skin sold better, but I think they both sold pretty well. [00:09:47] Speaker A: Wasn't the Uzi one just barely cheaper? Like, not much cheaper, but it was, like. [00:09:51] Speaker B: It was, like, negligible, like, differences between. [00:09:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, once you're spending in the hundreds for a skin. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Like, once you're investing that much, it's like, oh, you pay, like, $6 less than RP for this one from last time. [00:10:09] Speaker A: All right, cool. Well, from the LCK, though, what I'm hearing, Genji still good. Hlet1 still kind of the contenders up there with them. And then congrats to the freaks for picking up another series. [00:10:20] Speaker B: T1 plays Hanwha and Gen G this week. If you're interested in it the gen the Hanwha series is in five and a half hours so people after listening to this after we record or go back and watch the vod that's gonna be a good one. And then Saturday morning at 2am Eastern, 11pm Pacific the night before is T1 versus Gen G and I think that one is going to be the barn burner of the entire season because Gen G will have not given a at that point they're just playing for their series score record to keep going and T1 might be playing that just so that they get top two inside select against Hanwha in playoffs. [00:11:04] Speaker A: Okay interesting interest. [00:11:06] Speaker B: It'll be a good one I have. [00:11:08] Speaker A: A feeling same calendars everybody. [00:11:09] Speaker B: I mean if you unless you want to watch the the epic conclusion to the season that is checks notes DRX versus okay Savings Bank Brion after that like you wake up a couple hours later. [00:11:27] Speaker A: So I'm happy I will have you. [00:11:29] Speaker C: Know that series may help decide the. [00:11:32] Speaker B: Final playoffs that actually is going to be it's that series will probably do it because they're there's teams are separated by one series and like three less wins on the side of DRX that might actually determine what the last team for LCK playoffs is. So. [00:11:50] Speaker A: All right, well we'll have further updates in next week then as to how things took out with all the series happening this week. But there's another region I want to catch up on technically still part of the north as well because what is the north without the South? We got the LTA Sewell update from rmc. What's going on down in the South Conference. [00:12:08] Speaker D: Okay, so we kind of touched on the they were elimination matches and we touched on one of them which was the Leviathan isrus series that went full five games. It was a wild one that that reminded me of old CB lol like before they found out what a dragon was and how macro works so. [00:12:28] Speaker B: Oh God. Old CB LOL games. [00:12:31] Speaker D: Yeah, it was interesting. And you know what, if you want to know why I fell in love with Brazil as a region that's the sort of series that you'd watch. Very entertaining but sometimes it hurt my brain. The other one was of course loud versus fuxu W7M. That was a clean sweep from Loud. Griffin's doing wonderfully down there by the way. Loud Support had his birthday this week. His name is Ridbert. Griffin ordered a cameo for him. You know that those dancing African men singing Happy Birthday. [00:13:00] Speaker A: Yep. Well it can really be any celebrity but oftentimes it is. You Know, you just. People from a different country just do it for each other because it's funny. [00:13:08] Speaker D: Yeah. And I mean, this was specifically the. Like a bunch of guys from Africa holding signs saying happy Birthday from Africa. [00:13:15] Speaker A: Fair enough. Fair enough. [00:13:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:18] Speaker D: So, yeah, Griffin. Griffin fits Brazil like a glove, man. I absolutely love to see it. But they swept the weakest team in the league. Fuksuw7m is lost completely in the sauce and are probably the weakest team despite not having to do promo relocations. So it's set up for some unfortunate matches in the upcoming week because we now have Furia versus Loud, both of whom are like fan favorite teams with really, really fun players like Tatu. Griffin is going to be that mashup to watch for that. And then RID vs. Leviathan might be another slaughter. So the south, nothing too crazy down there. [00:13:51] Speaker A: Okay. All right, well, thank you for the update there as well. It's always fun to hear what's going on in the south because it's not going to be that long until the top three south teams come up to Los Angeles to play the top three north teams up until Grand Finals. And the big question when that happens is will it be two north teams or two south teams on finals weekend? All of them are going to be going to Worlds, but we'll still have to determine seeding from that position. So I've been hearing a lot of confidence from the north team. Still just not respecting the south teams. Do you think there's any chance, based on what you've seen so far, rmc, that we have a different outcome than Split one where there was only a single game picked up by any of the south teams? [00:14:27] Speaker C: Hell yeah. [00:14:28] Speaker D: I'm expecting the south to be a lot more competitive. I'm going to be honest. The only team in the North I feel like probably can't be beaten by itself right now is FlyQuest. Like C9. [00:14:38] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll talk about. Well, actually we already talked about C9 last weekend. [00:14:42] Speaker D: Yeah. And everybody below that. I mean, like, dude, ttl Lions kick. Yeah, the north is in. Is this all over the place right now? So I think very beatable. It really does depend on how teams shape up at the regionals themselves. [00:14:59] Speaker A: Well, let's. Let's get into the conversation about the north then, because there's one other bit of news information that I wanted to cover here. Mostly because Badger, I wanted to give you a cathartic release because I know you've been bottling this up for a while, but there's been a couple of. Couple of Instances here around the League of Legends. North Zeitgeist just dunking on Dignitas. Photon had an interview with Neyman where he just kind of aired a lot of information about the environment at Dig and what it was like when he first ARR Xu after their series win. Just names, names. He's like, I just want to be clear. I don't hate Dignitas. I hate their general manager, Bakery. So that was a funny moment. But Badger, I know that you have a lot of thoughts on this, so what are your thoughts on all the heat? [00:15:47] Speaker B: I greatly appreciate the fact that the former players that were in this toxic system are are being so vocal about it. So that the people who have been sitting on the outside looking in, realizing how much of a dumpster fire this organization has been since they came back in 2019 can finally be like, I was right. There are dozens of us. Dozens. So. So can you guess this team's best result since 2020 when they came back? [00:16:21] Speaker A: Oh, digitized left for during franchising, had to buy back in. They bought Clutch's spot because Clutch was the one that was at the beginning franchising. So what their highest I I. It's gotta be the. It's got to be last year when it was Sven. And was it Sven Jensen was. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Yeah, that was so last season they finished fourth in the round robin, fifth in the championship. There's a lot of fits. There's a lot of fists across the board, a lot of sixth, but there's also a lot of seventh and eighth. Technically their best result was 2022 lock in when they lost to TL and they got third slash fourth. That's really one to hang your hat on guys. Especially when you consider if we come for a split. Yeah, well, yeah. So. But if you want to do that, then technically they have nothing that is considered a top three finish, so. But the players on that team. Guess who was on that team. Xu. Guess you called out Bakery for being fucking shit at his job. X, you crazy? You've got all of this talent. We're building around Serdi. We've got Xu Dark Wings with his contract. Guess what? Xu and Dark Wings are playing this weekend and y' all are thinking about 2026 right now. Maybe you should get your together, look inside and be like, hey, you know what would be a really good idea? This. This Shaden guy, you know, problematic guy in the past. Nah, we're gonna sweep this shit under the rug. We're not gonna worry about it. [00:18:04] Speaker A: La. [00:18:05] Speaker B: Nah, man. Nah. [00:18:07] Speaker A: Remember when you had to play week one of split one. [00:18:09] Speaker B: That was because they weren't sure if he was going to be suspended or not. Absolutely fucking lutely. That was my high point. I'm just like, damn, that's crazy. Y' all picked a guy who was using slurs. And I mean, probably more than Shaden is the one that Shade is probably not the only one that's used a slur in solo queue out of as a LC LTA player. Let's be honest. At some point, probably somebody let it slip or something point. But this one was like, yeah, don't. [00:18:36] Speaker A: Check Raz's chat logs. Actually. [00:18:43] Speaker B: I'll just let that one slide because Raz is a cool dude. But Shaden, there was such a public campaign against this guy and a public campaign against this organization for so long, just like this. I. I feel bad joking about how 100 Thieves last week was like. Like the joke organ or they've become like the joke organization. Especially, I mean, especially after last weekend where they actually had a really good performance against the team that they were expected to lose to and what could have been their last series. But, like, looking at it, I apologize to 100 Thieves because the only theme that I can ever call a joke organization. Joke organization at this point is Dignitas. Just, like, looking at all of the results and it just is. It feels really bad for the players because there's so many players that have come through that team. Like, I mean, Tomos, Tomo, Dark Wings. We had technically River Someday when he came over for the first time, he was playing for Dignitas. Like, he came over. Yeah, yeah. When? In 2017. Someday was on Dig and I was like, I have to cheer for Dignitas right now, me. So that's pretty great. They've been at home, the aisles. I think Isles is great. Like, I. I don't. I, Like, I just think he's just been in a bad situation. Like, we saw, like, last year when he had Sven as his ad and had somebody that was, you know, able to play with him that he was, like, familiar with. Like, able to get that sense of familiarity from the C9 days. Like, they. They looked really good. Like, I think this. It's. It's just. It's above the team. Like, not giving them just an environment to thrive in. Like, you guys are one of eight teams. Like, if you don't want to commit to it, get the fuck out of here. [00:20:34] Speaker A: I, like, I think that the. The issue with DIG and why it's so easy to dunk on them Right now is honestly because Immortals is gone now. Now that a more. [00:20:45] Speaker B: Oh yeah, here. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Who's the next org on like the bottom of the rung. [00:20:50] Speaker B: And I know that we're never gonna get to a point where we're gonna have eight organizations who are at like peaks of their power. Like they're. Yes, they're all fighting for it. Like, I mean bring in like a real world example like Formula 1. Like you, you have different tiers of teams. Like there's, there's got to be somebody who's the. The Alpine of the lta. And unfortunately Dignitas has been the. The Alpine of the LTA for way too long at this point and they need to fix their car so. [00:21:20] Speaker A: Well, it's gonna be an interesting journey in the offseason for Dignitas for sure. Because I. Based on the interview that Photon gave. That's not the type of interview you give. If you want to play for this team again, I highly recommend go check it out. It was, it was really well worded and I, I got to talk a little bit with Photon after the series also actually a really nice guy. I, I really enjoyed the. That was my first like just one on one conversation that I had with him off camera. Like no lights or anything. Just like hanging out with him and photo. I was like, man, I kind of wish this guy would stick around. Like I actually gotta like him. [00:21:55] Speaker C: I will forever be shocked that Dignitas didn't take the buyout deal that the other. That Hundred Thieves Immortals. [00:22:03] Speaker B: I thought they were a shoe in to take the buyout deal. [00:22:05] Speaker C: I thought they'd be in the same position that Hundred Thieves was where we sold our spot. But we're here because we have to be. Yeah, if they were still here but. [00:22:13] Speaker A: Ownership group for Dignitas again they were. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Under one of the basketball teams. [00:22:19] Speaker C: That's back when they were rocking. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Or if it was Philly. [00:22:23] Speaker C: Philly was when they were Clutch. I want to say. [00:22:25] Speaker A: Although it does say this is according to Google, so who knows. But Dignitas is a private company that was acquired by the Philadelphia 76ers in 2019. So it looks like the 76ers bought clutch and then. [00:22:37] Speaker C: Right. Or maybe no, the Sixers had Dignitas. I want to see the Rockets had Clutch. [00:22:43] Speaker B: Okay, maybe that the Sixers organization group is also the team that is also the group that had the Philadelphia Fusion and the Overwatch League. And I don't know when that tanked if they just got out of it. But like it's weird because they're also, like. They also have, like, invested investment in T1, I'm pretty sure, if I remember correctly. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Really? [00:23:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Because T1 and the Philadelphia. [00:23:11] Speaker C: Like, I keep trying to look up Dignitas for Google and I keep coming up with the other. With the other. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Dignity. Yeah. [00:23:20] Speaker A: It's never conflict of interest because Dig and T1 will never play each other in international competition. And I will say it can be fun to dunk on the team that every. Like, the players are dunking on, the community's dunking on. You can get on the bandwagon. One thing that I will say, though, is that Dignitas is the oldest organization left. If they're gone at C9, which is still at this point a definitely a legacy organization. But, like, I don't want to see Dignitas just disappear. I want to see a resurgence from Dignitas and I want to see them actually, you know, give us a reason to cheer for them rather than just dunk and laugh at them. [00:23:57] Speaker C: Because Dignitas is so far owned by the 76ers and part of the brand that includes the New Jersey Devils. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Gotcha. [00:24:09] Speaker C: And we talk about bakery. It makes me so sad because I loved him as a player in Heroes of the Storm and he's. I just want to remember him on that high note and not the fact that he's a terrible manager. [00:24:24] Speaker A: Well, on that note, I think that that's enough on Dignitas and us jumping on the bandwagon of dunking on the. But Badger, do you feel like you had your release? Were you able to get it out of your. [00:24:32] Speaker B: I mean, I. I feel better than I did like a half an hour ago while I was preparing for this and, like, reading all of the results. So. [00:24:39] Speaker A: Good. Good. All right. I'm happy about. Oh, that's why you were so sad before we went live as you were looking at the results. Okay, that makes more sense. [00:24:45] Speaker B: There's so many 10th places on here. Like, genuinely Immortals had more. [00:24:49] Speaker A: I promise you, no, Immortals did have more. Only easier to dunk on Dig now because Immortals are good. Yeah. [00:24:55] Speaker B: Oh, no, 100%, I agree. It's just. I mean, they also did lose3.0 to. To Immortals in. In multiple playoffs. [00:25:05] Speaker A: Like, wait, they did? Oh, that's funny. [00:25:07] Speaker B: Actually, 2021 championship, they lost 3. 0 to Immortals. [00:25:12] Speaker A: All right, well, hey, they can't lose to Immortals again. That's. That's a positive for Dignitas right there. [00:25:17] Speaker D: I mean, they lost the race to get out. [00:25:20] Speaker A: Wait, what? [00:25:21] Speaker D: No, you want to end on a positive note we'll leave it. [00:25:24] Speaker B: We gotta get off of this at some point. [00:25:27] Speaker A: If anybody in the community though, has their own opinions on Dignitas or any of the other global news pieces going around, if we missed any news that you wanted to hear us talk about, make sure to tag us and let us know in the community. Discord, you can find the link in the description wherever you are listening along. And also if you want to support the pod, you can join the Patreon or check out our merch store. Both of the links for those are also in the description wherever you are listening. And with that said, how about let's actually talk about what happened this past weekend at LTA north, because we've already said a Dignitas lost and that's kind of partly why a lot of this conversation came up. But what else happened and kind of how did it look? Bickle, since you're back on the podcast, run me through what were the series that we had this past weekend and how did they shake out? [00:26:12] Speaker C: Yeah, so what we had was the five seed Disguise decided to take on the bottom seed, Dignitas, and as expected, the best seed beat the worst seed. DSG came out with a 3:1 and that left lion to take on Hundred Thieves in what everyone expected to be hundred thie final series as a team. And 100 Thieves beat them because why not? [00:26:40] Speaker A: Because, because why not? That. That is honestly like the only like dude, Hundred Thieves is such an enigma, man. And I, I know that like in the cast, I think it can be summarized by just Emily, there's a moment, I think it's at the end of game three she just says 100 Thieves. We missed you because this series was 100 Thieves back doing the crazy that 100 Thieves is known for. Fight for every dragon, fight for Otacon, throw the game at Otacon if you have to, but we're gonna fight it no matter what happens. And they just gave zero chill for lion and like never let them catch their breath and it makes for fun League of Legends, I will say. Will it win them a split? Will it get them far in a lower bracket? Who knows. But it did seem like lion could not hang with them there. [00:27:26] Speaker D: I'm gonna be honest, it should even have won them that series. Like lion specifically Saint felt like he couldn't hang because I felt really bad for Henna and Serdi and Audio Line and Lions like the other four were going toe to toe and then every time Saint was supposed to come in and you know, be the coup de grace he just choked. Yeah, it was really weird to say. [00:27:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's hard because that's basically what happened. Last split too. If you remember, in split two, lion was in lower bracket also struggled. Like, you also weren't. Weren't able to actually. Wait. No, no. Split two, I think they missed out, but it was like their last series when they were getting knocked out. Whatever their last series was. I remember being a similar thing where Saint just wasn't able to show up. And if Saint doesn't show up, this team looks really rough. But I guess you can say that really for any team. Like, if your mid laner has a bad series, everything is gonna kind of fall apart around it. And I will also say for 100 these on the positive side, Quid. This was probably Quinn's best series that we've seen from him. [00:28:27] Speaker B: They like quid champions. They did it. They figured it out. [00:28:32] Speaker A: He got what? Akali game one. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Akali Game one. I was like sitting there and I'm like, wait, hold on, hold on. I'm like, did they. Did they change coaches? Like, did they. What happened? [00:28:43] Speaker A: Like, they. [00:28:43] Speaker B: They let him play quit champions. I'm just like so used to seeing him on control mages and all this stuff. The boring. The boring picks. And then it was, you know, he got to play Akali, Galio and Yon in the three wins. So. [00:28:59] Speaker C: Okay, I just. I just saw a stat that makes me really sad. How many games do you think lion got to play this entire year? [00:29:12] Speaker A: It's not a lot. I'm gonna say under 20. [00:29:16] Speaker C: Okay. It's not that bad. It's not that. It's 29 games. [00:29:20] Speaker B: Okay. [00:29:21] Speaker C: 29 stage games this entire year, and now they're for five months. [00:29:27] Speaker B: That's insane. [00:29:30] Speaker D: I mean, how many did you play. [00:29:31] Speaker C: Under in the first round of the LCS? Every team was guaranteed 28 games before playoffs in a split. [00:29:40] Speaker D: Okay. [00:29:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:42] Speaker A: In the. In the best of threes. [00:29:44] Speaker C: Back in the best of threes. Lion played less games this year than good game University played in a single split. [00:29:51] Speaker B: Well, that was best of ones back then. Back in spring 2013. [00:29:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't remember when it went from best. I know it's best ones, the best of threes, and back to best of ones for a bit. And now we have these, like, weird, random formats every split. But that is not a lot of games. And it is. I think it makes me feel the most sad because of how cool lion is as an org. I actually was becoming a Lion fan by the end of the year. First off they were good enough that you got excited to cheer for them because they can win, they can beat anybody. Really. Like if they get a good day, they could take C9 or fly quest. And number two, their fan base is just so electric, man. You go to any of their social posts, you check out like what Chat is saying. When they're playing their games, they have a very active community supporting them and really cheering them on. And it's just I've always believed the fandom is infectious. So if there's a team with a lot of fans, naturally you're gonna gravitate towards that. Unless you're like more punks mentality and you're like, no, I'm go for the underdogs and like cheer for the one with the less team teams or less fans. But I think that in this instance, with just the current landscape of League of Legends, it felt good to have a team that people were rallying behind and now they're gone and they lost the team that's not going to be here next year that hurts even more. It's like ah, question for you guys at this point. [00:31:11] Speaker C: Serity obviously filled in on Lions and looked pretty solid. We already thought he should get another chance. Do you think he did enough here to get another chance? And if so, who gives it to him? [00:31:23] Speaker B: You better. [00:31:25] Speaker A: I honestly. Here's my hot take. I think that Team Liquid might be looking at a player like Serdi. I don't think that they sign Impact for another year and if they don't import a top laner then I think that they pick up Serdi. I think that they tried their best to get Quid who will take up an import spot and then they have an import available in the top lane if they want to, if they keep Yuji and Yan and Core jj but they wouldn't have to. They could like get a import jungler or something at that point if they're able to sign Serdi or. [00:32:02] Speaker B: I don't, I don't hate that move, honestly. Because there's, there's players, other players you can look at and I mean domestic top laner. I know it's. I know it's the. I know it's not the best thing to be like well, you know, if they have a domestic top laner then they can go look in and LCK Challengers and see who you know is rising through the ranks over there and like play off that. But I don't think they'll want to do that just, just yet. [00:32:35] Speaker D: The problem is that Sniper is going to be on the market too. [00:32:38] Speaker A: I I think though. [00:32:39] Speaker B: Do you think Sniper's value has tanked though a little bit just based on how this split has gone? I mean. [00:32:47] Speaker A: This is a conversation that I want to have more in depth during the the break between like you know, and the split and Worlds or maybe even after Worlds in like a true postseason. But by that point oftentimes roster, you know, moves have already been confirmed. But I do want to have like a full conversation with the pod about where do we think players are ending up right? Like what's the roster off season going to look like this year. And I think that 30 sniper are both going to be on people's eyes or people will have their eyes on them rather. But I actually have 30 stocks higher than Sniper right now based on kind of how how Sniper's journey with 100 Thieves ended. But maybe that's odd take. I don't know. Either way that's that's Dignitas versus disguised and lion versus 100 thieves this past weekend. DSG Dig as fun as it was to see DSG get a win, I still think that was a really sloppy series and I do not expect DSG to go far in the lower bracket. Hundred Thieves, though this is kind of harder to predict. I you'll see my predictions here. A bit of a hot take. Let's start talking about next week now because we have C9 versus disguise to kick things off. I got C9 taking it. I'll give one game disguise out of respect, a big fan toast if you ever hear this. Give him hell, man. But I do think C9 is just that much better than Disguised for the next series. I actually have 100 Thieves taking this against Team Liquid 3. 0. Now I'm seeing that Badger maybe agrees with me. He's a little. I don't know. [00:34:21] Speaker B: I genuinely do not know who. I know it's gonna go five games. This is, this is gonna be a five game series. But I don't know who I I penciled in 100 Thieves right now just because it feels like the most like likely outcome in this situation. Especially if they just, you know, don't put the shackles on here on Quid. [00:34:38] Speaker A: I'm gonna help you out in my my reasoning has actually very little to do with hundred thieves. The only 100 thieves point that I have here is that Dokla seems like he is more communicative with the team and they have a better game plan of how to play the game. Does that mean that it's clean league? No. But they're at least all committed to the same plays, whereas before they weren't doing that. But the real reason they win. This is everything I have heard behind the scenes from players, other casters, from analysts, from coaches, about scrims, about conversations about happening at the studio. Everything is that Team Liquid is so mental, boomed right now and is just bleeding in scrims. Like, they haven't. I'm talking. They haven't won a game this past week in scripts. Like, that's how bad Team Liquid is. Like, disguised, crushed Team Liquid and scrims that. That. Like, that's the level that Team Liquid's at right now. And if that's their mental, I know Spawn is in person. Typically that fixes it. But I think the whole year of pressure, winning split one and then having a rough split, too. Losing Umpty, bringing Yuji and getting him caught up with the team Impact, having a bad split and having no explanation for it. Core JJ having honestly, kind of a rough year too. Yawn. Really being the only glue keeping it together. Sometimes APA can. But I know that those two personalities sometimes clash with each other, as we've seen in some of their content. Like, from. From what I'm hearing, Team Liquid is not doing great. So I think 100 thieves take this because circumstances allow it, so that they can just crush Team Liquid. Thoughts from the people that believe in Team Liquid, because Bickel and rmc, I see you both still have Team Liquid as your predicted winners. [00:36:19] Speaker D: Yeah, but I have them 32 as well. And not a very confident one either. [00:36:23] Speaker C: Yeah, it's not a confident 3 2. I think for me, it's mainly not TL has looked bad. I have been so conditioned by how bad Hundred Thieves looked this entire split that I can't take a good series against lion as, like, okay, they're back and they're gonna upset Team Liquid. I do think the absolute funniest storyline would be Hundred Thieves manages to go on a run and somehow qualifies for World despite not having a team next year. [00:36:53] Speaker A: Right. [00:36:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:55] Speaker A: How funny would that truly be? That would literally be clutch. Qualifying for Worlds when they've already sold the Dignitas. It's like, similar energy. Yeah. Yeah. [00:37:05] Speaker D: I mean, do we know who's taking. [00:37:07] Speaker C: Over 100 thief spot yet? [00:37:09] Speaker A: No, there is no public information. And even from, like, what I'm hearing behind the scenes, I've not heard any leaks confirming anything. So there's still the usual suspects. A lot of names being thrown around. Like, maybe it's a Brazilian team, maybe it's maybe they give it to an LLA team. Like, because obviously lion got in. They could just give it to another one of those orgs. Maybe it's somebody like, you know, Sentinels or somebody like who's the other. There's like another NA organization that could theoretically buy it. I forget what it was, but would. [00:37:42] Speaker B: It make sense for them to like have just two teams promote in if they can't find someone to take over the franchise in time? [00:37:50] Speaker A: Like that could also be a solution if they don't actually have a buyer. Like an official buyer. Maybe it would be that they announced. Yep. The north promotion tournament will have two spots open. [00:37:59] Speaker C: Feels like they would. They're shutting Hunt. I think they told Hundred Thieves we're going with somebody else. And they're just. That makes me think they have somebody. Unless they're like, yeah, we just don't want you back. [00:38:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Because the only reason 100 Thieves was here this year is because they didn't have a better partner to come to the spot yet. So that. That is a good point. Yeah. [00:38:19] Speaker C: I'm trying to think of if there's. [00:38:20] Speaker A: Any more powerful than any team promoting in. [00:38:23] Speaker C: I'm trying to think if there's any valorant orgs from na, but I think the only one notable is Sentinels because a lot of them are Brazilian and they probably want to be in the LTA South. [00:38:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna say like. But Crew. Crew could take over for it, but. [00:38:38] Speaker C: That's right. [00:38:39] Speaker B: I forgot they're more bring evil geniuses back. [00:38:43] Speaker C: No. [00:38:43] Speaker A: Oh God, no. No. [00:38:49] Speaker C: I'll take Immortals back before I get evil geniuses back. [00:38:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I know I would. I definitely would take Immortals back before. [00:38:55] Speaker A: Well, Jess, I got got fun news for you, Bickle. Guess you ever know who the head coach of EG was. The split. They lost Danny and left. [00:39:03] Speaker C: Oh God, Rigby. [00:39:06] Speaker A: Who's coaching Dignitas Anyway? On that note, let's talk about. [00:39:10] Speaker B: I knew where you were going. [00:39:13] Speaker A: Shopify Rebellion versus Fly Quest. We all have FlyQuest taking this one. I have one game to Shopify. Rebellion as well. Badger has one game to shop or. Yeah, one game to Shopify. Still the series to Fly Quest. Pickle and RMC both think it's a 30 no matter how you slice it. I think that this is the number one team in LTA north, bar none up against a team that is really, really hungry for it. But this is not the Cinderella run. I think If Shopify beat FlyQuest in any world, it's going to be in Texas. It's going to be in the actual finals. That's how they did it as NRG back in the day when they took down Cloud nine. I think if they do it again, that just, like, makes more sense to me. Like, the Nair. If they want the narrative buff, they got to earn the narrative buff. They got to go through the lower bracket a little bit. [00:39:59] Speaker D: It's not even just narrative, too. If Shopify wins here, I actually think that screws them later because that. That would light a fire under FlyQuest hours right now because they need the lower bracket. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Their stuff together. [00:40:12] Speaker C: Cloud 9's already rolling with the lower bracket buff. [00:40:16] Speaker B: They got the an expectation C9 gets the lower bracket buff sooner, so then that can scale even further. It's the snowball effect. They up. [00:40:25] Speaker A: Well, I got bad news for them. Their lower bracket ramp is going to be DSG and then either TL or 100 Thieves. So I don't know how much. How good a practice. [00:40:33] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:40:34] Speaker C: That's some. Some tough teams. [00:40:38] Speaker A: I know, right? [00:40:38] Speaker D: I mean, C9, I don't know if they can handle narratives. Buff on 100 Thieves looking pretty strong. [00:40:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:43] Speaker A: I'm giving it to them because TL is boomed because they're ramping. But I. I did actually hear every team GM is gonna be, you know, a fan of their own team. But the GM for dsg, he was at the studio when they're playing dig. They were up 20 in the series. And he did say he was like, dude, our scrims have actually been going really well. Like, we split games against C9 the other day, and we actually want them to pick us because we think we can beat them. And I was like, that's a bold statement, dude. [00:41:20] Speaker B: Man's. Man's is talking about scrim books against C9. And I'm just like, all right, man, here we go. [00:41:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:26] Speaker C: Well, C9 did up their choice the first time when they picked Shopify. Maybe they fucked up again by picking disguised. [00:41:34] Speaker A: How hilarious would that be? C9 are the architects of their own destruction. [00:41:39] Speaker B: That'd be wild, I think. [00:41:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:40] Speaker C: I think if C9 did that, they'd finally take the pressure off of KT, who are still getting shipped for the one time they picked T1. [00:41:50] Speaker A: Fair enough. [00:41:51] Speaker D: I also say that would be the. That would be the world in which LTA south sends two teams to world. [00:41:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that. That honestly would be the setup, because then it would be, like, fly Shopify, most likely, as our two top contenders. Watch DSG make worlds, though, baby. I. I still want them to so bad. So they have to play relegations and then go to worlds and maybe they get relegated and then we can make the joke of like they're not even the 8th best team in the league. [00:42:19] Speaker C: I honestly think there's a world where if they make that sort of run, they end up with that hundred thief spot. Oh, just they become the permanent team and the guest spot becomes more flux. [00:42:34] Speaker A: That would be interesting. That'd be very interesting. [00:42:36] Speaker D: Even if they lost the promo. [00:42:38] Speaker A: Relegation unknown in the future. [00:42:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:43] Speaker A: There'S a lot of funny stuff that could happen. All of it will be decided in the coming weeks here as playoffs continues. But that is it for LTA North. The only series I had to watch. I don't think DSG DIG is very good League of Legends. So I actually Recommend Checking out 100 Thieves lion just because 100 Thieves are fun to watch. You know, they. They bring the firepower. They really pressure Lion a lot. And it's fun to see Big Doaks back even when he gets bodied in one of the games. Big dogs. Big dogs. But that is lta north in a nutshell. Now it's time to hop across the pond and talk about the other English speaking region. We have league LEC over in Europe and there were four series that happened this past weekend, or rather should I say this past week. The earlier games were happening this morning as of record because it was Monday and Tuesday games. Yeah, that's right. They had Valorant in the studio, so they made a more sensible decision, I think where they said, let's not sacrifice a live crowd, let's give them the studio and then we'll delay our show days. And LEC overall seems like it was kind of according to plan. I'll be honest. I usually have time to at least catch the highlights. Was not able to. So Badger Bickle. I know the two of you caught a lot of the Leck. What did I miss? What was going on over in Lech land? [00:44:04] Speaker B: Not much really. I mean, the teams that were expected to win. So like. So Navi is now 0 and 4 with a 08 game score. That's the big takeaway from Gian X and Navi is that Navi showed up, played, played eight games on the Rift and didn't really have anything to show for it. Heretics beating BDS is kind of considered an upset because Heretics, you know, now jumps them into third place in group B and they made playoffs knocking SK out. Playing my tiny violin for that one. Obviously for specific reasons. I don't know why. [00:44:51] Speaker C: You mean Dindon and Abadaga weren't the solutions. [00:44:54] Speaker B: The dignitas of Europe. Am I right? Trying to think what else. G2 dismantled SK. [00:45:08] Speaker A: Like, yeah, they went undefeated. Right? They're. They're just like no games dropped in the group. [00:45:13] Speaker C: They did the anti Navi. They went eight. No. [00:45:16] Speaker A: After last week's disappointing fanatic series. God, that one. I still am so sad at how bad that series was. But yeah, yeah. 4080 for G2. Well done. [00:45:25] Speaker C: I will say Group B is so fraudulent, it's not even funny. [00:45:30] Speaker B: It's really fraudulent. [00:45:33] Speaker C: Like G2 and Fnatic are the only good teams there. Four of the top six teams are in Group A. [00:45:42] Speaker A: Yes. That is actually crazy to think about that. Navi was really the only shit team in Group A. Group B. Fnatic only looked so good because they were against against Team Heretic, BDS and sk. [00:45:54] Speaker C: I haven't been on the podcast to say this, but Fnatic's totally fraudulent with this three in one record. They're terrible. [00:46:00] Speaker B: I don't think I. I feel bad because I. I don't think that Kobe's had enough time to mesh and come into the team. [00:46:08] Speaker C: He hasn't. And this fanatic team's not making worlds. Like, they're just not. [00:46:16] Speaker B: Well, did they get three slots or do they. They get. [00:46:18] Speaker C: They get three slots. [00:46:19] Speaker A: They get three? [00:46:19] Speaker B: Yeah, they get three. [00:46:20] Speaker D: I could see them sneaking. [00:46:23] Speaker A: Bickle, I want to get your thoughts on something I had said earlier. This was before the LEC split even started. When I was talking about Group A, I was like, group A is the competitive group. It is because of the fact that it's mkoi Casey and I actually even put gx. I was like, I think GX is good. I think GX could be better than Fnatic. Like, I think it's going to be G2, MCOID, KC fighting for the top three and then fourth place is going to be between GX and Fnatic. [00:46:48] Speaker C: I think vitality sneaky in there too, kind of. [00:46:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:55] Speaker B: But. [00:46:55] Speaker A: But how? Now that we've had a couple of weeks of gameplay, what do you think about GX's name in the conversation? Do you think that they're a dark horse contender or do you think they just are, you know, better than like team Heretics, bds, which are the other teams coming in from Team B or Group B? [00:47:09] Speaker C: I think you are dead on with the fact that there's a solid top three and there's a fight for fourth. And I think if you can make it to fourth. And one of those top three teams has a bad day, you can pull off into third. So I think it's a long shot, but I wouldn't be surprised. But I think the betting odds right now should be coy. Casey, G2 going to Worlds in whatever order you want. [00:47:42] Speaker A: Probably G2 first, based on what we've seen from the group. [00:47:48] Speaker C: They haven't played Coy or kc, though. I don't take anything away from them smacking Fnatic. [00:47:54] Speaker A: True. Who did Casey drop the. Oh, they dropped theirs to Vitality. Yeah. [00:48:00] Speaker C: Casey drops a Vitality question mark. [00:48:04] Speaker A: Yeah, right. That was a very funny. It's so funny that there was a world Vitality could have taken first. First in this group, if they just win their series, they actually get it. [00:48:12] Speaker C: If they win that series, they end up in first. Instead, they ended up in fourth. Group A was crazy. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Group A was, in fact, a little wild, a little zany. But with that being said, it sounds like, yeah, it was all according to plan with G2 winning, MCOID winning, GX winning. Maybe you could have had an argument. Rmc, I know that you were voting for the Chaos. You wanted Vitality to take first because you thought it was fun. [00:48:38] Speaker D: Well, they did. They did beat Casey as well. So, like, it wasn't impossible. [00:48:42] Speaker A: True, true. It's a good point. [00:48:44] Speaker C: I really didn't want that to happen purely because that would have meant round one of playoffs would have been Vitality versus Fnatic, and one of those teams would be guaranteed to go to Worlds. [00:48:55] Speaker A: Yes. [00:48:56] Speaker D: That was the world I wanted to see. [00:48:58] Speaker A: Wait, that's actually crazy. [00:49:01] Speaker C: Yeah. For the. For Case, for Koi Corp, G2 and Fnatic. If they win their first best of five, they are in Worlds. [00:49:11] Speaker A: Wow, that's an insane buff. And they also get time to prepare because LEC will not have games this coming weekend. They start up again the next weekend, and it's going to be four days in a row. Everybody strap in for the LEC playoff schedule. It's going to be Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. From what I'm seeing, at least on League pd. I haven't looked at the official Riot website, but knowing how bad that one is at telling you the schedule, I. [00:49:39] Speaker B: Don'T even know if I believe that. So I'm on here. And it says. Yeah, yeah, that sounds right. Because why would they play Tuesday games? That's. Yeah, it should be right. [00:49:51] Speaker C: You're on. It's Friday. Saturday, Sunday, Monday. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Yes, yes. Friday, Saturday. Not. Not Saturday. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. You're right. [00:49:56] Speaker B: Friday, Saturday, I was gonna say. [00:49:58] Speaker A: There we go. There we go. Go. [00:49:59] Speaker C: Yep. [00:49:59] Speaker A: See, that's why I thought you said. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Yeah, we're. Yeah, we're back. [00:50:04] Speaker A: I say with a lack of confidence. So that way, when I am inevitably wrong, I'm like, see? Come on, guys. It was a group effort, but it will be Friday the 5th. September 5th is when we'll be back for LEC playoffs. That's Team Heretics versus Vitality. Then we have GX BDS on Saturday, G2KC on Sunday. That one's going to be exciting. [00:50:24] Speaker B: That's going to be the end of the week week for sure. [00:50:26] Speaker A: Oh, it has to be. [00:50:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:28] Speaker A: One of the series of the split, and then MCO versus Fnatic on Monday. Potential for that one to be good. And that will really be a test for Fnatic. They got smacked by G2. Can they do better versus MCOID, JoJo versus POBY. Right. That'll be fun. That'll be very fun. But we'll cover more of that on next week's episode because that's happening not this weekend, but the following weekend. So we'll save it for. For that episode of the podcast. So that's it. Wow. I feel like we got through LEC so fast yet again, but I think a lot of that is again, just the matches essentially going how we expected them to. But who do I throw this to now? [00:51:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:51:08] Speaker A: But you got final thoughts, Badger? [00:51:09] Speaker B: I was. I was gonna say, like, sorry, excuse me. Looking just at it. It's just the LEC has not really been overly exciting in the regular season, and hopefully the playoffs can redeem it with the format coming in and the whole two groups thing. Like, I know we. We see it in all these other major regions, and it just. Can we go back to normal? Like, we don't need to reinvent the wheel. [00:51:44] Speaker A: Single round robin or double round robin? They're all eight teams. Yeah. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:49] Speaker C: My statement was going to be every region has tried a different format coming in, especially for summer, to try and mix it up. And I think. I don't think any of them have been good. I think they've all been terrible formats. [00:52:04] Speaker A: I think LEC has been the best, though. And that's saying some, considering it is at least easy to understand. It is not complicated to tell somebody what's happening in LEC. Oh. Oh, yeah. 10 teams. There's two groups of five teams, and they have a single round robin in. In each group, and then that seeds going into playoffs. Boom. Like, that's actually pretty simple as opposed to. [00:52:27] Speaker D: But then I don't get used to the corkboard with all the. The pins and string. [00:52:34] Speaker A: Oh yeah. [00:52:35] Speaker C: For LTA north, good idea. Pretty bad execution. [00:52:43] Speaker A: Fun idea, the first draft of it. But then, yeah, once you actually start seeing it play out, you're like, ooh. [00:52:51] Speaker C: It sounds so cool. And it just doesn't play out well. And they're so lucky. We didn't get the nightmare scenario of the top teams just going 202020 and just getting like, well, we see no good games. [00:53:08] Speaker A: Plus 100 Thieves for getting a game off of Shopify Rebellion. Bless. I think DSG also got a game off of Shopify Rebel. So those two things happening really made things more interesting in the standings. Yeah. With that being said, I mean that that's LEC for this past week. We'll have a break on this coming weekend, but it will be back again for playoffs and then thankfully we'll actually be synced up for LTA and LEC because then I believe for the rest of the playoff schedule. Actually now I might be speaking too soon. LEC might end a weekend before ldta. I'm looking at the schedule I'm trying to remember right now. I think it actually might line up because we have two more weekends before we have the north and the south conferences fight each other in la. So I think it'll be at least close to each other in terms of the the regions linking up which they've been kind of desynced all year. But rmc, I'm gonna throw it to you because usually I do it to Mazel and he's not here right now. That's going to wrap up the episode. If people enjoyed the podcast and they want to leave a review, how many stars would you recommend they leave? [00:54:15] Speaker D: I see how it is. I'm just back up my zel to you because I'm a loan from myself. You should leave us. [00:54:20] Speaker B: We're on loan. What do you expect? [00:54:22] Speaker D: True. You're right. You're right. I'm alone. I have to play. I think we should get five stars in memory of the best finish Dignitas has had since Bakery has become the general manager larger and that's fifth place. So five stars. [00:54:38] Speaker A: Wait, no, I thought. [00:54:39] Speaker D: No, Locking doesn't count. Locking doesn't count. [00:54:43] Speaker A: Didn't they have a regular season where. [00:54:45] Speaker C: They had finished fourth? [00:54:46] Speaker A: Gotta be playoffs. [00:54:48] Speaker D: Only playoffs. [00:54:50] Speaker A: Yep. Okay. Boom. I and also because I think it's funny. So yes, five stars for the highest playoff finish of Dignitas since Bakery took over his general manager, but maybe don't have that connotation with our podcast. Just. Just only look at the number. Just the five stars right there, if you could. It helps us get noticed. Thank you so much, everybody, for listening along. We'll be back next week to cover more of the LTA Knockout Stage and then give a preview for week one of LEC Playoffs. But for right now, if there's one thing that I want you to know, leaving this episode is that we love you and we'll see you next time. Bye, everybody. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Buddy, goodbye. [00:55:27] Speaker C: Peace. [00:55:51] Speaker B: Sam.