Episode Transcript
[00:00:13] Speaker A: Gets a little too far here. He's gonna have to try and get himself out. Let me go. Tillery and the rest of the shots of fire. Zion is just killing the next Zion can eat it single handedly win the
[00:00:22] Speaker B: game by game by game by game by
[00:00:26] Speaker A: should be.
[00:00:27] Speaker C: Oh my God.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: Stupid passes through and manages to the table with Messiah tanking it up. I do not believe he just believe.
[00:00:42] Speaker B: I cannot understand this game.
[00:00:46] Speaker A: Unicorns of love. It wasn't a mutant. They're Nexus.
Hello and welcome to episode 603 of the League Rundown. This is your 2026 spring split LEC week three review and LCS week two review. And this episode is lovingly entitled Perfect Predictions. For the first time ever, I'm your host, Kangas. And that title does reference myself. Chip off the old block. Rub my shoulders or brush the dust off my shoulders, whatever the saying is. Either way, first time it's ever happened. But also joining to celebrate my fantastic prediction week, we have out of the can, it's Badger the.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Yeah, this, this, this week was surely one of the the weeks of all time. Let me tell you, everything went according to plan.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: Your perfect predictions and none of my predictions were memes. They were all serious. And I earned this. I earned this.
We also have. Joining us this week, Bickle.
[00:02:01] Speaker C: That's not the craziest thing, guys. I think G2 broke the LCK.
[00:02:07] Speaker A: Oh, so not. Not just the LEC because they're. They're kind of broken in the LEC as well. They broke all the LCK though.
[00:02:14] Speaker C: They broke the LCK as its entirety.
[00:02:17] Speaker A: Oh, well, let's just start there then. Usually we do like roster news, variety topics, but let's get the LCK update. What's going on? What happened to can we fix it? Can we like get some super glue or something?
[00:02:29] Speaker C: People may remember last year we were talking about how absolutely dominate the team. Dominate. Dominating the team. Gen G was.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:38] Speaker C: Ending summer with a record of 29. 1. Between spring and summer, they are four games in and already lost two series. This year they're two in series. They've lost more series in the first two weeks of spring than they did all of spring and summer plus playoffs combined.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:02:58] Speaker A: Damn. Sounds like Chovy's washed.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: Not a great time over in the LCK land. But you know what is a great time over in the LCK land?
There's this little team called Fear X. You know, you might, you might have heard of them.
They have this player on this team that. That's called Daystar.
[00:03:20] Speaker C: It's time.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: May or may not have mentioned him a couple of times. He got his first reps at the fucking lck, baby. Let's go.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: Let's.
Oh, hell yeah. Did he.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: Did he go. Did he lose to Scout? Yeah, yeah, unfortunately he lost to. Not him. But hey, what he beat on those DN Supers, Let me tell you.
[00:03:41] Speaker C: Pay no attention to the fact that Fe Rex currently sits at the bottom of the league in 10th place at 1 and 4.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: Poor diable, God damn Diablo and Daystar. Honestly, why not an ELO hell on this team, let me tell you.
[00:03:57] Speaker C: And if you're confused by that, you'll be really confused by the fact that KT Rolster currently sits atop the standings at 5 and.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: Oh, they're still undefeated.
[00:04:06] Speaker C: They're undefeated though. Dear God, that series against D&KIA was
[00:04:11] Speaker B: something they really tried their best to lose.
[00:04:14] Speaker A: My God, I thought that 30 was going to be like, yeah, that's a fluke start.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: But five.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: Oh, that's you out there.
[00:04:21] Speaker C: You listening?
I just want you to know even you can play pike in the lck.
[00:04:28] Speaker B: Career has proven on pike in the lck, let me tell you.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Oh boy. Yeah, you guys told me that that's a game that I need to watch in my free time.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: You. You need to crack a cold one and sit down and watch it and just be like, God, what happened to this region? Let me.
[00:04:45] Speaker A: I mean, honestly, considering the quality of the games between LEC and LCS and our game plan to like barely talk about them for this episode anyway, maybe we just do that.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: We just crack a cold. We all just crack a cold one and just sit here and.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: Yeah, audio medium. We all watch a game, maybe
[00:05:03] Speaker B: react
[00:05:04] Speaker C: to Kangas's reaction of the series.
[00:05:06] Speaker A: Oh my God.
[00:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that be. Be so great to sit here and watch the 40.
What was it? 40 minute game on the dot. Yeah, it was like 40.
[00:05:14] Speaker C: It was some. And then we get to follow it up with the wonder that is flanking Varys.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Oh my God. Oh, remember? Okay, so Kangas, do you remember the. The I'm a cutie pie meme of the team? My reaction when the team flanks with Maokai and my team flanks with fucking Lucian.
Yeah, in reference to the Lucian top game from. From.
From back in the day. Yeah, imagine that. But with Varys against Nafiri Trundle Ari,
[00:05:48] Speaker A: that sounds like a bad angle for a very.
[00:05:51] Speaker B: Let me just tell you, these team comps top to bottom on each side. So Casey Rollster went Nafiri Trundle Ari Yunara and Lulu D Kia counter it with Varys Top and Besta Jungle Twisted Fate Mid and then a Felios Thresh Bot Lane.
[00:06:09] Speaker A: What the hell?
[00:06:10] Speaker B: How do you even play the game
[00:06:12] Speaker A: as D like career is banned from
[00:06:16] Speaker C: playing Hook champions anymore.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: Anything that's Career just needs to stop playing skill shot champions in general.
[00:06:25] Speaker A: Well, I mean, to be fair, in his defense against that composition, you're probably gonna be using your lantern and flame more than anything else.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: Right, right, right. But he played Nautilus, pike and Thresh all in the same series. He was just like a blitzkrieg away from the. The.
I would. I almost said Holy Trinity, but that's, you know, again, champs.
[00:06:45] Speaker A: All that signals to me is somebody made a cow she bet. And he was like, yep, I'm going to make some money off of this. I'm playing all three Hook champions. I don't know he's going to cash up.
[00:06:54] Speaker C: I don't think I've ever seen in game two this unkillable of a Yorick who is just a raid boss. Like, you're going to gank me multiple times and throw like four people at me and I'm just going to walk away because D plus Kia had no damage in game two.
[00:07:10] Speaker A: All right, here's what we do then. Here's what we do. If we can sync schedules at any other point, like either this week or weekend or early next week, because I'm traveling to Atlanta for the Riftbound regional, which I'm covering next weekend. So sometime before then, if we can schedule a time to sit down, open some cold ones, watch that the. The. The game with the pike, and just record that that can be Patreon content. There we go.
[00:07:35] Speaker C: That'd be fun.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: Maybe somebody will be interested in listening to us blind re.
Or at least me react to the series. That could be a good, good content piece. But there's other news around the. The horn that we want to cover. So any other final LCK stories, any big things happening there before we move on?
I mean, we could going once.
[00:07:57] Speaker B: We could go top to bottom and just the standings real fast. I mean, it's. It's KT1 Hanwha 2 non shim 3 Genji and T1 are tied for 4th slash 5th with keyword DRX, you know, lovely reaper. Okay, so. And then it's Dam1, Hanjin the artist formerly known as Fred at Brion, the DN Poopers, and BNK Ferrax at the bottom.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: All I heard from that basically was that T1 and Gen G, they got A lot of room to make up for here. Tied for fourth. Fifth is not what you expect from the powerhouse organizations, but same can be said at LEC as well. We'll get to that shortly here. First, speaking of lec, some roster news. There's one piece of roster news that we can cover for this week. Team Heretics have already made not their first but their second roster swap. Now this was a team that was very vocal about building the roster and saying, yeah, we want to invest into a roster and build for the future.
They already replaced Stend with Way as their support.
Wei has definitely made their laning phase look better with ice, but now they have made another swap which means that technically the entire roster is different from last year now. Yep, everybody is different from those were
[00:09:24] Speaker C: the only two pieces that remained from last year and now they are both
[00:09:27] Speaker A: gone because now Shayo has been benched and Jungler Daglis coming in from Tier 2 team Heretics. You might recognize that name. He played for Vitality in LEC Spring 2020, so he's gotten some Tier 1 experience. Didn't make big waves, but now he gets another opportunity. But the story that I I was reading from Sheep Esports seemed like Shayo, it was kind of like a. It was worded as if it was like a self bench. Actually, no, this wasn't cheap esports. This was the Team Heretics post themselves that they posted on Twitter. So go check it out. They. They had like a statement.
You never know how much of it's corporate speak, how much of it is real when it comes from the teams, but from their wording it was Shayo basically offered to bench himself based on the conversations that the team had with the players. Now that could also be interpreted as the team or the coaches sat down and said, hey, we're gonna make roster swaps. This team sucks.
Like who. Who wants to follow the sword or however they phrase it, right? And then Shayo's just the one that takes the heat there. But regardless of how it happened, Shayo is not going to be playing and it will be Dagless in for this next LEC Bickel. Any. Any big thoughts, any major thoughts on Team Heretics making this change other than just like it's completely counter to pretty much everything that they had said going into the split?
[00:10:49] Speaker C: Yeah, it's just, I mean you're one in five, you're not going to make playoffs.
There's nothing you can really do about it. This isn't going to fix anything. Yeah, there's larger systemic issues and also,
[00:11:04] Speaker A: I'm happy you bring that up. They have played six of their nine series.
We just finished week three.
If I have three more series left,
[00:11:17] Speaker C: I think I saw the math. They were at like a 5 1/2% chance to make playoffs.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: Oh, that's low.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: They.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: They play one series this coming weekend and then they have two on week six. But they were not invited to either the road shows. So there's a lot of teams that will have all of their series played and finished by week six. Just because week seven is a roadshow and it's only four teams that are there.
Yeah. Low chances for team Heretics.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: When do we get to pose the question to Bickle?
[00:11:48] Speaker C: Oh, God.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:11:49] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Do you think now is the time to do it?
[00:11:51] Speaker B: Now the time? Because then we can follow it up with the other one.
[00:11:54] Speaker C: By the way, I was wrong. They have a 2.93 chance to make playoffs.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: Oh, even. Yeah.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: You know what?
[00:11:59] Speaker B: I like those odds. So you're saying there's a chance?
[00:12:02] Speaker A: Technically saying there's a chance.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: Bickle, you ready for this one?
[00:12:06] Speaker C: No, but.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: Okay, I want you to think long and hard about this.
Who wins a series first between these two teams?
Shifters and dignitas.
[00:12:18] Speaker C: Oh, God.
[00:12:25] Speaker A: It's an interesting question. We. We were thinking of saving it for later, but because we're talking about just bad LEC teams, we gotta get the
[00:12:31] Speaker B: bad out of the way first. What?
[00:12:33] Speaker A: We can just talk about it. Also, heads up for everybody, this is going to be a. An episode that's light on conversation around the games just because the games weren't that fantastic.
So we prepped some funny side conversations. This is one of them.
Look at the schedule before you give your answer because I have an opinion on it.
Based on specifically the schedule of the two teams.
[00:12:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm looking at the schedule.
I'm gonna go with shifters.
[00:13:01] Speaker A: I agree.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: I. I also was thinking shifters, because that fanatic spot, that fanatic in week
[00:13:09] Speaker C: five is staring at me in the
[00:13:11] Speaker B: fanatic on April 24th is just staring at the sword that they can follow.
[00:13:17] Speaker C: I just realized this on the road shows. They play Friday, Saturday, Sunday instead of Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Lec. Make up your minds.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: Oh, my God, I didn't even realize that.
[00:13:26] Speaker B: Also, yeah, also week five, week seven,
[00:13:29] Speaker C: they play Friday, Saturday, Sunday plays four
[00:13:32] Speaker B: match days in a row and six of seven match days. God, look at it. So they play.
[00:13:39] Speaker A: And those are all the same week because.
Yeah, they played.
[00:13:43] Speaker C: Oh, my God.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Paris. They play Fnatic, Casey Navi back to back.
[00:13:50] Speaker A: What a week oh, that's crazy.
[00:13:53] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: But to answer the question as well, I. I agree. Shifters, because they have fanatic Dignitas, don't have like a. A good matchup until LCS's week six, which will be LEC's week seven. And that's versus disguise. That's like the first time that Dignitas has a match. And I would say they actually have a chance because they got TL Fly Quest C9.
[00:14:13] Speaker C: They had their most winnable match, most likely against Shopify, and they got two. Oh, smacked.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: Yeah. So.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: And then a surprise.
[00:14:20] Speaker C: They took a game against Lion.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: Against lion, which gives a lot of hope. I'm not gonna say hope because I have zero hope, but some cope for Dignitas for sure. We'll talk about that.
[00:14:32] Speaker C: Lion 9 0.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: So I did pick Lion 90 and I was wrong about that.
[00:14:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: Variety topics, though, before we get too into the weeds on LCS and LEC stuff, Badger apparently has another hypothetical question on the bank, by the way, so. Okay, wait for.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: Oh, no, this one's. This one's a positive one. This is a positive one.
[00:14:52] Speaker A: No, no, no. We'll save that one for later.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: This will be when we talk about the good teeth.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: Okay. Okay, cool. One variety topic we wanted to cover before we hop into the leagues themselves is new League of Legends talk show launched for anybody who knows or follows Mrs. Chim Chim. Her name's Reagan. She's been a co streamer for the LCS as well as global events for the last year and has just been making a lot of league content, streaming a lot of league growing. Her Twitch channel, she's one of, like, the biggest percentage growing league streamers year over year for the past couple of years, which is really cool. She's at like now like 300, you know, viewers on her on her stream normally when she's like, getting into the swing of things. So it's cool to see somebody growing a league community. And she just launched. Launched a talk show. I got to guest on the first episode of it.
Basically, it's a news show where she just talks about news in League of Legends, kind of like we do at the start of our show, but she just kind of gives you the information and then maybe gives her one of her takes on it, and then she brings a guest on to talk about some of the topics from the news and then also just introduce the guest and talk about the guest and what they do in the community. So I got to be on the show for the pilot as a commentator for League of Legends, but she plans on doing all kinds of guests in the future. Other streamers, coaches, players, analysts, producers. Like all kinds of people that are in the League of Legends and LCS or rather competitive esports scene.
So really cool. Go check it out. Twitch TV. Mrs. Chim Chim. You can also check out her YouTube where the VODs go up of each episode. She has like a whole set built is really cool. Did either of you guys get a chance to check out the the. The pilot episode? It's okay if you didn't, but I'm
[00:16:30] Speaker B: just yet I have not.
[00:16:32] Speaker C: But it'll be in my listening queue for tomorrow at work.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: Yeah, she for episode one.
It's a pilot, so of course it's going to be like a little more rough around the edges.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: It'll.
[00:16:43] Speaker A: She'll probably get more like smooth into the groove of things as episodes go on. But she also, just for context, had an entire like monologue prepped for the beginning of episode one. And then the night before they were gonna go live for the episode, Riot dropped all the information about the new patch and sent her like a creator doc saying, hey, do you want to make content around this? And she was like, okay, I'll just rewrite the entire intro for my show to just be about the the new season update.
So it's very information dense about just like the changes in the update.
But then for future episodes it'll be more like still league generic, like about the game and topics there, but also opened up more about like the esports and stuff like that. So yeah, just a little context there in case you're like, this is just a lot of league information at the beginning here. It's like, yeah, that's just the extenuated circumstances for for that specific episode. But all right, cool. And that's it for news around the horn.
Reminder to join the community Discord. If you if we missed any topics that you wanted us to cover, let us know in there. You can find a link in the description where you are listening. Also, shout out to people that are in the LCS or rather the League Rundown Community Fantasy League.
I was in fifth place as of last week and having forgotten to change my entire roster. And it just was the same locked in.
I'm in second place, baby. I somehow lucked my way up really good week.
And Puppet is now in first place. Sorry Korag, your strategy of picking one team at a time did not work great for week two. Week one it was all team liquid. Week two it was all of C9 and think card coach, I suppose. So Corag's got a very specific strategy of just pick a team and pick all their players.
Still they're in, you know, a good spot. They're in third place right now. But they did drop from first place going with that strategy. So anything else? Oh yeah. And if you want to support the podcast, we have the Patreon, we have a merch shop. Links to those are also both in the description. Thank you to anybody who supports the pod. And with that being said, it's time to talk about LEC and LCS or at least what we can about each one. The series were kind of one sided and not the, you know, most inspiring league of legends outside of like one series in each league. So we're gonna start with LCS and kind of talk about what happened there. Badger, run me through top to bottom the standings currently in the LCS and also just what games happened this weekend.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Yeah, so over in the LCS right now there are two teams in first place technically.
Well, I guess it's one team in first place and then one team in second place. But they have the same series score. It's Team liquid with a two zero series score and a four one game score. Cloud nine is two zero series four two game. And then tied at one and one it's FlyQuest, Lion, Shopify and Disguised.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: You know and the best part by the way is that all of those, none of them are tied in a game record. They, they lion three three, Shopify two three Disguise or sorry. Shopify two two at disguise two three. It's so funny.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: And then bringing up the rear, the Sentinels hate watch continues and unfortunately the, the, the dig boys are back where they belong.
Yeah.
[00:20:15] Speaker C: Did they ever really leave?
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Kind of towards the end of last split.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: You know what, they finished seventh technically in lock in.
[00:20:22] Speaker A: So I think the bigger surprise though is Sentinels a top three team from last split yet to pick up a series win. They've gotten a game win in each of their series though and I think that they're one of the more interesting teams to talk about still, regardless of the, the bad start.
I understand see them with Dignitas at
[00:20:43] Speaker C: the bottom that they were top three last season because of how they finished. They're not. They were not a top three season last year. They were not a top three team last season is what I. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they lucked into their playoff matchup and would have lost to anybody on the other side.
[00:21:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it was very fraudulent. Their, their path to the top three that being able to play Disguised and you win that series and you're guaranteed top.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:09] Speaker A: Then it's like, yeah, they lose to.
[00:21:11] Speaker C: They lose to Team Liquid, in my opinion.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: Well, they definitely lost to C9.
Well, let's talk about the the past weekend though. Bickle. Since Badger went through the standings. What were the matches that happened this past weekend in the LCS?
[00:21:28] Speaker C: Sure. This past weekend we had Shopify Versus. I mean, yeah, Shopify Versus Team Liquid, which was Team Liquid 2O. We had Dignitas lion, which was Lion 2. 1. Somehow Fly Quest disguised, which was A Merciful 20 because that could have been 90 if you watched it.
And then you had C9 Sentinels where a series occurred and Cloud 912 1.
[00:21:55] Speaker A: But a series did in fact occur.
[00:21:58] Speaker C: I don't know if there were any winners in that series, in all honesty.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: That should be classified as a C930, I believe.
But Sentinel's made it very interesting at the end in terms of the interesting narratives from this past weekend because like, I don't want to talk about TL Shopify. Oh my God, they just slaughtered them.
[00:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: Dig lion was very interesting because it felt like Dignitas had a really good game plan for game one. But then things kind of fell apart in games two and three in spectacular fashion. We went from like a whoa. Dignitas are actually holding their own. And specifically, specifically Xu is like out jungling inspired. Like that is crazy inspired. I believe it was game one. He played the Nocturne. I think that was it, if I'm
[00:22:45] Speaker C: inspired was game one Nocturne.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: And he just like wasn't able to do anything with the pick early on despite some like kind of creative jungle pathing and big narrative that we had there. It was just Dignitas actually was like more impactful on. On the map. But then games two and three, it was like the complete opposite. And by the time game three happened, I think xu's champ pool really got exposed. They were like four total jungle bands. And then also the fearless bands from the previous two games and actually went to Maokai Jungle and it did not look pretty holy.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: It felt like after game one it was the definition of okay, what now? I don't know. I never thought I'd get this far.
[00:23:25] Speaker A: Right?
Dude, the way I described it today in the LCS story meeting, do either of you know the like, depressed Koopa Me?
[00:23:32] Speaker C: Yes. Where?
[00:23:34] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: It's like you have to do like the little dance, like when the song happens.
That one win is their little like dance moment. But like they're still depressed before and after.
That's just the one little blip where they, they had a success.
So yeah, that, that series happened. But lion was able to kick their themselves back into gear, then close it out.
Disguise fly was also like insanely one sided. Dude. Holy. Griffin smacked Cryra around and that was like the big narrative going in was like, hey, these two junglers, very young players, they're friends outside of the game. We did this whole like interview with both of them going into it. They were smack talking each other. It was fun, it was exciting. Game one, Griffin invades. It's like, oh, this is gonna be a fun jungle matchup. Because Griffin just invaded. Oh, he's an, oh, he's invading again. Oh, Cryer has not taken three Raptors in a row. Oh, Cryer's down two and a half levels on Griffin. Oh, Cryra's level. A lower level than his support.
Oh my God. This is not going well for Cryra. And then game two is about the same story, so. And Masu on a master class and Masu gets a pentakill.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: Oh, so we're kind of over three on good series.
Badger, what happened in Sentinel's C9? Did this one turn things around in the LE in the LCS narrative side?
[00:24:59] Speaker B: I mean, I, I, I would like to pretend that it did. I mean, it can be one of the series that went 2:1 this week. So like, hey, on the bright side, we got three games.
[00:25:11] Speaker C: I don't know if that's a good thing.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: I, I, sometimes that's not a good thing.
[00:25:17] Speaker A: It can be fun.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: I was trying to bury the lead on it Bickle, but you're just like, yeah, that's sometimes not a good no.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: Here's how we spin it. Here's how we spin it as a
[00:25:26] Speaker B: good Mr. Story meeting guy. Let's go. Let's hear it. I want to hear, I want to hear your pitch.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: The way you spend this is that Sentinels, they didn't hear no bell.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: You know, like they just not hear a bell.
[00:25:40] Speaker A: You're down 7k gold and we get that one like player listen in of who he like, yeah, it's okay, guys. All we need is like one good fight and we can win the game come out of it. And like flowers and Kobe are laughing like poking fun. Like, yeah, yeah, it's gonna just take one more fight. And then what the fuck does it take? It takes one more fight, baby.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: That's how volatile the meta is right now. Where it's reached the point that if any time after like 27 minutes you have three people on your team die, you. You might have just lost the game. Like yeah.
Bases just fall so quickly this season with. I mean it's between the changes, between all of the stuff with the plates, the, the fact that you know you could wind up and here comes the pitch and you just destroy turrets so easily. It just, it just feels like games, it's the classic up until they lose the game they're winning from like coast back. Like the coast theory back in the day. It just feels like it could be oh, you know, 7k down. All right, well here we go. I guess we just have to do a Hail Mary healer here. And you know you, you have those characters that hit that late game. You got the rise, you got the Caitlyn, the. The five item Caitlyn. The rise with God. Can. Can. What is actualizer? Like what the is that item?
[00:27:04] Speaker C: It is an item.
[00:27:06] Speaker A: This item is disgusting. Like genuinely you get the two item spike of the Rod of Ages seraphs and that means that you're kind of unkillable. And then you get that and you're like okay, now the game's just over. Like now you just. One shot everybody.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: The machine gun. It's. It's. Yeah.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: And also who he on the Anivia support. We've been seeing Anivia support creep up and it's crazy like who he was actually able to get to the Rod of Ages plus serifs. I usually see Anivia support just go the Rod of Ages and not go the serifs because like your support it's gonna be kind of hard to to stack all that up and like get all those items. But game went late enough and he actually was basically like a mid laner by the end of the game. He had those two items and then oblivion orb for healing reduction on the Renekton and the Caspia with the Conqueror. And also there's Anamis. Like you're just getting a lot of value out of that. And we're seeing that even support Anivia. What it does is it just stalls games own control. Yeah. Even if it's not like getting all the gold like a mid laner will it can still drop a wall, drop an Ult and just clear a Baron wave. Like it doesn't matter if you pick up the Baron, you're never going to siege these turrets.
[00:28:13] Speaker C: I think Sven has to have ptsd. Anytime he sees Scarner on the enemy team, just has to look in his inventory and see if he has a QSS or not?
[00:28:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: So C9 kind of dropped the ball. Sentinels were able to mount the comeback win, which was very exciting, but should have still been a 3oC9.
And then also blabber. I gotta say, I'm gonna give him some credit. The. The drunk driving Herald play, it went through the turret. You look at the replay.
I know that like the turret Hitbox is a little janky with the Z axis, but like you, that Herald went through that turret, that is insane that it did not connect. So I'm actually giving him a pass on that. I would be pissed if I was a player that happened. But it was funny to see that he just like goes right through it and then hits the wall and just dies out of turns. Like, oh, my bad, guys.
[00:29:10] Speaker C: I mean, what is Sentinel supposed to do against the Scion middle?
[00:29:15] Speaker A: I don't know, man. Apa, it was awesome. On the interview afterwards of just like, yeah, like every time we log it in, like, Thanatos plays it up like, man, they just stole like the most op mid later from me. I love that he's playing it now, especially after like this was Insanity's pick. If anybody remembers Insanity, the mid laner for Immortals back in the day. And he kind of was like a mercenary in the Midland. He played for a couple different teams, but he would pull out things like the Scion, the Garen mid right, like these top laners in mid lane. And I love that APA is kind of carrying that torch now.
If anybody's gonna do it, it's. It's Ian.
But that's it. That's all the LCS matches.
If you're gonna watch a game, I think Sentinels versus C9, game two for the comeback dig Lion. Game one for the craziness. Other than that, there wasn't a lot of like fascinating League of Legends on the LCS side this past week.
So that's really all that we can recommend.
Unless. Do either of you have any other recommendations or any other storylines narratives you think that we haven't hit yet?
[00:30:15] Speaker C: Yet.
[00:30:16] Speaker A: Going once, going twice.
Sad.
LCS did not have a fantastic week, but I think this next weekend could be much more exciting. We got four matchups to talk about our predictions. Badger has not thrown demand. I'm going to call you out on that, brother.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: I've realized I. We've done a lot of BSing, but it's okay.
[00:30:37] Speaker A: He. He created a segment for later, so I'll give him a pass. But DSG versus C9, we'll kick things off on Saturday. We all have C920 across across the board. I thought about giving disguise a game but C9 are just looking like they're in.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: They need to earn that game.
Honestly the only thing I'll say and
[00:30:54] Speaker A: this is a narrative point that I brought up because I'm going to be on the the analyst lounge for for this day actually if you look at the stats and I know it's two weeks right. Stats are not real. But you try and build narratives where you can. Especially in expected one sided matchups.
Castle and Thanatos have have very similar lane dominant stats pre 14 minutes.
Sajed and Sven have very similar negative stats in Lane at 14 minutes.
[00:31:24] Speaker C: Both teams played season long or just this split.
[00:31:29] Speaker A: That is mostly the split for C9 for. For disguised it's all year but for C9 even last split Sven had out of like the top teams. Yeah had a relatively weak laning phase. It was like he just shows up late game. But C9 don't play to their bot side. That is not where they get their leads. So I made the point that I was like I think the an interesting narrative to me is that this is probably Sajed's biggest opportunity to leave lane with a lead he's at. Sven is the only AD carry that Sajed is actually ahead of in like XP at 14 gold if at 14 CS def. At 14.
Sven's the only AD carry with the worst station stats than Sajed in those categories right now. So I'm like maybe this guys can actually play to bot lane for once or even if they don't like Sajed could actually leave a lane with the lead because the Jed's laning stats have looked atrocious so far. He's just like young rookie mechanical 80 carry that can show up late game team fights. But we're still waiting for him to show that he can like play the laning phase as well.
So that's what my eyes are going to be on for that matchup. That's a lot of breakdown for a expected one sided matchup. I still have C9. Two Sentinels versus FlyQuest is next. We also have FlyQuest 2. Zero across the board there.
You know what? Now that I look at it, maybe this weekend in LCS is not gonna be excited.
Damn. I thought. I thought it was gonna be better
[00:32:51] Speaker B: than what I mean there's a chance.
[00:32:53] Speaker A: It's just Lions shopify start off Sunday. We all have lion taking it. I have Lion 9 0.
There's I don't think Shopify are going to win a game for the rest of the split. I'm just going to leave it there.
[00:33:06] Speaker C: Boom.
[00:33:07] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: Dig versus Team Liquid to close things out on Sunday. We all have Team Liquid 20 across the board. Although I am noticing badger, you have Lion 2 one. So do you have any big reason why you think Shopify Rebellion will pick up a game?
[00:33:18] Speaker B: If they can drop a game to Dig, they can drop a game to anybody at this point.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: That's a good point. That's actually a really good point.
El Contracto might be good for one.
All right, that's LCS week two review as well as week three preview. Let's hop across the pond now over to the Oleck League.
E you it took me exactly one week of not being there for all the games to get kind of poopy. I gotta say, guys, it was not that exciting of a week.
[00:33:49] Speaker B: It wasn't a good week for him over there. It was.
[00:33:52] Speaker A: Oh, it's kind of right. Although I did get pushed.
[00:33:53] Speaker C: It wasn't exactly good week of League of Legends.
[00:33:56] Speaker A: Yeah, they can't all be bangers. You know.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: This H this. There's always that one random week in like spring where it's just like go out like the weather's getting nice, go touch grass like.
[00:34:08] Speaker A: Yeah, well, let's at least talk about
[00:34:10] Speaker B: an Update on like 3 times speed later.
[00:34:14] Speaker A: Like they. They can't be fun. I. I don't have YouTube Premium, so I can only go up to two times speed.
[00:34:19] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: But you know, shout out to those that like the three time speed.
Let's still talk about though, like what's happening in the league. Bickle, I'm gonna throw it to you here. Top to bottom. What's the standings over in the LEC after week three?
[00:34:32] Speaker C: Sure thing. It has a reminder to people. The standings here are very wonky because they do not all play the same amount of games at the same amount of times. There are some teams here that have played six series already.
Some teams have only played two.
It's wonky.
So at the top of the standings is team Vitality at 5.1, followed by the undefeated Giant X at 4.0, followed by Navi at 3 and 1, followed by the undefeated Carmine Core at 2 and oh, then middle of the pack in fifth place is Mcoi at 2.2G2 sits at 1 and 2, followed by SK in seventh who are 2 and 4 with Fnatic next and eighth at 1 and 3 with Shifters next at 0 and 3.
Finally, with Heretics rounding Out the club at the bottom at 1 and 5.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: So we gave the question earlier of who wins a series first between Shifters and Dig Dignitas. Now the question is who loses a series first between Giant X and KC. Giants are 4 0, Casey or 2 0.
[00:35:42] Speaker C: It's Gianx.
[00:35:43] Speaker A: You think so?
[00:35:44] Speaker C: GIANX isn't actually a good team.
They've just been coasting with an easy schedule.
[00:35:49] Speaker A: I was hoping we wouldn't all agree on that. I feel like they're kind of fraudulent right now.
[00:35:53] Speaker C: They are.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: They got Navi and Vitality coming up. Casey have SK shifters Fanatic as their next three. So I do I. Yeah. There's a definitely higher chance. Although if GX win those two series, they don't play again until we seven.
They're playing two series this next week and then they get a two week break. The LEC schedule is crazy.
[00:36:15] Speaker C: Wait, that's crazy.
[00:36:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: This LEC schedule is so, so fucked.
[00:36:23] Speaker A: Like genuinely, if GX manage, I think it's a tough week because Vitality are great. I actually have them spoilers beating Navi.
But if they can go undefeated then that means going into week seven the super or like the. The road show with KCG2 MCOI. GX could be the undefeated team going into that. How CR and Casey could be undefeated going into that. Actually, now that I think about it,
[00:36:49] Speaker B: because Casey is expected to be force first.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: SK shifters Fanatic.
[00:36:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: Movable object.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: Although Casey also plays Navi and we
[00:36:59] Speaker C: look at this LEC sketch schedule, the more I absolutely hate it.
[00:37:04] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: And the more that we see the split play out, the worse the Roadshow for Week 5 looks. The one that Casey is hosting.
[00:37:11] Speaker C: Oh my goodness. The roadshow for week five.
Fanatic and Shifters are going to that road.
[00:37:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Navi is the only competition for Casey.
Honestly, kind of fraudulent.
[00:37:25] Speaker C: You get one good game on Friday between Navi and Casey and then you're going to watch five Terry terrible games.
[00:37:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: You're gonna see Navi beat a lot of bad teams. But I still think that Navi is like they're the gatekeepers for me right now. I think that they're. I say fraudulent. I think that's too harsh. I don't think they're good enough to beat the good teams. I think that Rellech is a very exciting player to watch and to follow and I'm excited for the future of his career. I don't think that it's going to be this roster winning it though. I still think Poby's too Weak in laning phase. And I think that main tour is also a bit of a weak point for them. Like, if he's not on a tank, Navi just can't play. Like, it's, it's just a different look. Like, Maintenance Rumble is one of the most atrocious rumbles I've seen in my life.
So, yeah, crazy schedule there. Let's talk about this past week's schedule, though, before we get too far ahead.
Badger.
What games happened this past weekend? Run me through. Saturday, Sunday, Monday's schedule.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: So Saturday, we started off with the barn burner. That was the coughing baby versus the hydrogen bomb of Navi versus Team Heretics.
Then we followed it up with actually, the only series that's probably worth watching out of the entire week for the LEC of Vitality versus G2.
Koi versus SK was after that. So Navi won Vitality 1. Koi won.
We open the next day with the barn burner of Vitality versus Shifters, which I believe at one point was a French civil war, but I don't think technically the revolution.
[00:39:03] Speaker C: Wait, Vitality almost pulled the Vitality.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: So, yeah, we. Oh.
[00:39:11] Speaker A: Oh, no, I figured it out. Shifters are the bourgeoisie because they went to Korea to boot camp and lost their touch. They lost touch with the people. They lost touch.
[00:39:20] Speaker B: Man, everybody who went to Korea, it's just, you know, just falling apart at this point. What the heck is.
[00:39:27] Speaker C: Apparently, shifters didn't scrim in Korea. They just all played solo queue there.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Well, you know what? Honestly, at that point, deserved. Deserved. What's happening to your team if you're not gonna.
[00:39:38] Speaker C: Though, in all honesty, what Korean team's
[00:39:41] Speaker B: gonna watch shifters Academy teams?
[00:39:46] Speaker C: Honestly, that's probably it, though.
[00:39:47] Speaker B: No, I, I, I can think of at least four LCK Academy teams that could beat shifters in a best of three. Right now.
[00:39:55] Speaker C: I can do five.
[00:39:58] Speaker B: God, we're one of each. No.
[00:40:00] Speaker A: Okay, well, we're not gonna talk about that.
[00:40:04] Speaker B: Casey. Two theory takes. Harry takes to end day two.
[00:40:08] Speaker A: Monday.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Skb F.
SK beat. Beat Fnatic.
[00:40:13] Speaker A: And more. More than that. What? What did they do to Fnatic? What was this?
[00:40:16] Speaker B: You owed them.
[00:40:17] Speaker A: And who said that they were going to two of them last week?
[00:40:20] Speaker B: Kangas? You did. You.
[00:40:21] Speaker A: You're God damn right I did. All right, keep going.
[00:40:23] Speaker B: You said that they were going to. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, look over here. It's Shifter's losing another series to Giant X.
[00:40:33] Speaker A: So, yeah, jingling the keys for the baby. It's like, oh, look at this. Can I read you?
[00:40:38] Speaker B: Giant X's opponents that they've played this split so far.
They have played shifters, they have played Fanatic. Well, I guess I should do this in order. They played Fnatic, they played sk, they played Heretics before, you know, the in between swaps.
Between the first swap and on the second swap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the swap just happened.
And they've played shifters, they've played the bottom four teams.
[00:41:07] Speaker A: Yeah. For those keeping track, that is literally seventh through 10th in the standard.
[00:41:11] Speaker C: They have played the four teams that will miss playoffs.
[00:41:14] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:41:15] Speaker B: This is, this is the most fraudulent 4.0I've ever seen in my entire time.
[00:41:19] Speaker A: Like, but think about it, Think about it. All they have to do is beat Navi and Vitality.
Yeah.
[00:41:26] Speaker B: They're going to beat the best team and the second best. Like two of the top three teams in the league right now.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: Still feel like Navi's record is like, you know, sk, they beat team Heretics. They lost to vitality, they beat McCoy. That was the exciting one. But that was week one MCO and that was like the, the catalyst for MCO's coach kind of going crazy and saying like, hey, we will drop players if they're not doing well, which didn't seem to fix mkoy, which we'll talk about later.
But I, I think that Na', Vi, like, they are not as strong of a three one as you'd expect. They're six and four in game score. So, like, their series have all been really close.
[00:42:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, can I say, Can I just say that the GX schedule of Navi and Vitality this week is harder than the schedule week seven where they play coy, G2 and KC back to back to back.
Yeah.
[00:42:23] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:42:25] Speaker B: Can I, can I sell you on this? Can I do the Shark Tank?
[00:42:28] Speaker A: Know if you can. But maybe.
[00:42:31] Speaker B: I mean, that's really, like, they've played like, they've played like the little league teams. Like, you know, the.
Oh, man, you've played the T ball teams. Guess what? Now you're playing against, you know, these, these AAA baseball teams at this point to set yourself up to play, you know, the Dodgers, the, the Dodgers, the Seahawks and like the Thunder, like the Oklahoma City Thunder back to back to back. Week seven. Good luck. Like the jump that they had between playing the teams that they played last week, I guess it was just shifters last week to now, you know, Navi, Vitality. Like. Oh, yeah. These teams that are like, like on the cusp of being the best team in Europe. Like, oh, yeah, you know, we, we're, we're doing this, and then. And then they just get, you know, into the ring with prime Mike Tyson, Week seven, just. Just for three rounds in a row. So they got this.
[00:43:28] Speaker C: No problem.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: This is gonna be great. I cannot wait to watch this. I'm praying this next week will be
[00:43:33] Speaker A: very exciting because I think this next week is gonna so much more solidify the standings than what we see so far, because right now, I think Vitality have earned their first place with their five and one series score. They've played six of their series. There's three teams, by the way, that have played six of their series in the first three weeks.
That's crazy.
It's Vitality. It's Team Heretics and it's sk so two of the worst teams and one of the best. I think Vitality has had a really solid run of things. They lost the KC, beat Team Heretics, beat Navi, beat M Koi, beat G2, beat Shifter. So they beat two of the bad teams, lost to one of the best teams, and then beat two of the good teams as well. So, like, I think Vitality have earned where they are. GX have not. I don't think Navi has either.
So that's where I'm still, like. Like, yeah, I'm. I'm hesitant to get excited about Navi, specifically the games that happened this past weekend, though. I mean, you kind of alluded to it. G2, Vitality was the only really exciting series.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:35] Speaker A: Bickle, break it down for me.
[00:44:36] Speaker C: What?
[00:44:36] Speaker A: Why was this one exciting for Vitality?
[00:44:39] Speaker C: I will asterisk and say that was the only exciting good series because there's another series that's exciting for the. Any other reason?
[00:44:51] Speaker A: Sure. Exciting in, like, the. You know how I often make the analogy of it's fun to look at explosions Sometimes it's also fun to watch a snail slowly crawl into lava. You know, it's just, like, excruciating.
[00:45:06] Speaker C: I mean, I thought you were gonna go more with the analogy you made last week of, like, sometimes you just see a car crash happening, you can't look away.
[00:45:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, you slow down traffic, like, stalls, just because everyone's.
[00:45:17] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:45:17] Speaker A: Yeah. But if instead of a car crash, it's like. Like a car dangling over a ledge, and you're like, oh, God, is it gonna fall? And then, like, it takes 30 minutes, and you're like, is nobody gonna go help them? Is he. Like, should I go help them? And then eventually they fall.
[00:45:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:32] Speaker A: But
[00:45:34] Speaker C: G2 versus Vitality was a really exciting series.
Game one banger, in all honesty, the series very well could have been a 2.0for G2 but Vitality just fought their way out of it. Bit after some interesting plays by Broken Blade and Skewmond for game one.
[00:45:53] Speaker A: But also some great picks and finds like knock knock still stellar especially in late game split pushing and I'm barred. Dude, fleshy sport is so good.
[00:46:05] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:46:05] Speaker C: It just in the end it takes a couple team fights that Vitality get these big picks from Lissandra the Bard to set it all up. Carzy gets a lot of big kills on this Caitlyn and they're just able to slowly but surely bring it back and close out a crazy 52 minute game. One that had like three, four barons or something like that.
[00:46:34] Speaker A: I think I have the the stats up here. It was three barons or four. No, sorry, four barons and an elder that G2 got.
[00:46:41] Speaker C: And G2 got four barons and an Elder and lost the game.
[00:46:47] Speaker A: Yep.
It's crazy they didn't have Dragon Soul. Vitality was able to get that one. Then want to fight get the Dragon Soul and I think it was on the reset then that G2 was able to get the Baron but then they still like lose the fight afterwards.
[00:47:01] Speaker C: Then game two caps picks LeBlanc and says I'm angry and hard carrying this game and that's exactly what he did.
[00:47:10] Speaker A: Broken Blade also went Yasuo into the Gnar which is kind of fun. It's a classic old school counter and I do like comps like usually I'm not a fan of the carry top laners unless you have like a tank somewhere. They didn't have a tank. Skuman was on Xinjiao but they had Ash Seraphine. So Ash Seraphine can really empower Xin Zhao and Yasua to actually go forward. Despite the fact that there's not like a knock up outside of the Xin Zhao Crescent guard and I guess it's Q3 but yeah, yeah.
[00:47:38] Speaker C: So that was a really kind of stomp by G2. And then game three it felt like was just balanced on a knife's edge for the longest time until Vitality broke open the game at the very end with Dragon Soul.
[00:47:50] Speaker A: Yep.
But it shows that again G2 struggling to really find their their same like pace of play. I was checking some of the stats.
Skewmond is actually the lowest first blood percentage jungler in the league and by that I mean a big donut. He has participated in zero first bloods.
Every other jungler has participated in at least one. So I actually have a theory for how G2's playing.
I think it has been heavily influenced by what we saw at first stand. What worked at first stand was a lot of big like full clear jungle paths and then look for like fights at scuttle crabs and stuff. And it's about laners playing to your jungle rather than junglers playing to their lanes. What we see a lot of other teams in LEC do right now is at least in a game during the best of three series, the jungler will go for a gank and we actually see people like influence the lanes as opposed to forcing the lanes to influence the jungles. I think Skuon's still stuck in his head where he's like, nope, I'm just going to full clear and then look for stuff and maybe my team can follow up with me. But then they're not drafting priority lanes or like caps is on Zoe into humanoid Syndra. It's like Zoe can't really get like a push on Syndra for that. Broken blades on Scion into Knock Knocko's Aatrox. It's like you're not gonna get really like push with that. Right? Like you don't get priority with these types of lanes for the Olaf. So we didn't see like G2 really change what was working at first stand. And I think it's put them slightly behind this shift in the meta.
But with the new update happening for the next season, that's going to be dropping like right before playoffs for all teams. And I think that G2 is a team that's so quick at picking up new things that they're going to be just fine and still peak and like do great in playoffs and maybe even win the split. So I. I have faith in them. I think that they're just like, they bought too much into what was happening globally at first stand and how teams are playing there. And that's not how other teams are playing in the LEC. And G2 is not able to punish them despite the fact that like, theoretically, if you just have priority lanes like that style, it can still work.
That's my take. What do we think? Am I crazy? Badger, do you have. Do you have thoughts on that? You're a strategically minded individual.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: I think this. I think it's a pretty good basis to say. Honestly.
I. I agree. I concur.
[00:50:20] Speaker A: Love a good yes. And last time Badger agreed with me, by the way. It was about Shopify Rebellion. So I think we are 0 for 0 on bad green with my takes.
[00:50:30] Speaker B: Hey, listen, you know what? Sometimes you gotta. What is It I always get the saying wrong to to you gotta crack a couple eggs to make an omelette.
[00:50:39] Speaker A: True.
Sometimes the egg is my bald head.
What was the other.
What was the other series that you wanted to highlight that people could watch? If they like explosions, Slash.
[00:50:53] Speaker C: If you like car crashes and you like Kangas being able to dance about how correct he is because he called this to a T, you can watch Sk2o Fanatic.
[00:51:06] Speaker B: Yep. Insane.
[00:51:07] Speaker A: And he's saying, right. If you thought Vitality G2 was a long game one, this was almost an hour 56, 27 of just two teams, neither of which knows how to end a game of league.
[00:51:25] Speaker C: I think they said this was the longest two zero ever for a best of three in the LEC or something like.
[00:51:33] Speaker A: That's very funny. Yeah. Because game two was like a 37 minute game. Yeah, that's still pretty long.
[00:51:41] Speaker C: God, this series.
[00:51:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it. It went seven Dragons plus an Elder. So eight total Dragons.
Four Barons to sk.
They needed four Barons to win the game.
Absolutely absurd. And it was like a slow start. It was an 11 minute first blood. So not only was this like a long ass excruciating game because neither team can end, but it also was like a slow build because nobody actually like was able to land any big leads early on.
[00:52:17] Speaker C: Fanatic should have 2o this.
[00:52:21] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I don't know.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: I.
[00:52:24] Speaker A: Having a 4k gold lead at 44 minutes doesn't actually mean much. I mean they. They didn't even have the Baron. Like Baron's picked up by SK and then they kind of botched the. The push and Fnatic was able to to get like a couple kills but they just don't have like the. The pushing lanes to do it. Because of the Baron.
[00:52:46] Speaker C: Yeah, they just couldn't respond to wonders TF top.
[00:52:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it was ridiculous, man.
Wonder went 27 and 9 on tftop. Constantly dying in side lanes. Didn't matter.
[00:52:59] Speaker C: Did not matter. It was so impactful.
[00:53:01] Speaker A: And he went crit by the way. He did not go aptf. He went full ie Kraken Slayer, Lord Thoms Rapid Fire Cannon. Like what the hell is it? Ghost Flash, twisted fate.
[00:53:15] Speaker C: Also Yapa 70 and 3 pentakill to win the game.
That will be on his career highlights for the rest of his career. Plain and simple. It was.
[00:53:27] Speaker A: Dude, Yapa's Ezreal is first off just his best champion by far at this point. Like just. Just give him as real every series. Or if you're a team playing against him, draft ezreal game 1 so he can't pick it up for the rest of the series. Otherwise you got to ban it.
I just love what Yapa's able to do for this team. Like this kid is on such a weird roster and is like the clear standout for me.
[00:53:51] Speaker C: And despite being a 56 minute game, I'd say game two was even weirder.
[00:53:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:54:03] Speaker A: Ever gotten a Dragon soul, then lost the fight and then lost the game.
[00:54:10] Speaker C: Ever had a 5 1/2 K gold lead less than 20 minutes into the game where your mid laner has solo killed the enemy? Well, the enemy mid laner like four minutes in the lane and still managed to lose.
[00:54:22] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:54:22] Speaker C: No, just. Just fanatic.
[00:54:23] Speaker A: Three minutes. It was three minutes in the lane. Leader's able to pull off the soul kill. Dude, Leader Shampoo is so funny, man. He pulls out the Zed again, which did not work when he pulled it out last time, but this time like it kind of worked. Like he was actually able to to kill Vladdy a bunch, but it just didn't matter.
[00:54:38] Speaker C: No, it shouldn't have worked. He got Solo killed four minutes into the game. Like you said, Vladdy just killed him in lane it Racer Razork ran skeins out of the jungle and then all of a sudden around dragon like 17:18 minutes in. It's like, oh, what if Mickey just gets the most godly three man pop blossom and Yappa picks up a quadra kill on Jin, the most useless champ that somehow still killed all of them.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: Them and leader came back, baby. It doesn't matter how laning phase goes. It matters how your stats look at the end of the game. Okay, I, I,
[00:55:19] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:55:21] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:55:22] Speaker A: Dude, this team is not real. I don't understand how they do it. I don't know how they keep getting away with it.
It's ridiculous.
But they're a fun team to watch. So yeah, if you like explosions, slash, I don't know, avant garde art pieces. That's. I would describe this series, go check it out. Because that one definitely was entertaining to say the least.
But that brings us into LEC predictions for this coming week.
It's the first week now in week four that we're not gonna have three series on Saturday.
Thank goodness. Those are long broadcast days for the casters. It's also just a lot of League of Legends legends to to keep track of. So let's go over predictions on Saturday. We got Navi versus gx. This is where we already differ. Badger and Bickle are doubling down on gx. Being the frauds and Navi being the better team, I'm actually taking a chance here and saying I think GX are good for this one.
[00:56:23] Speaker B: I don't know what you're thinking, honestly.
[00:56:26] Speaker A: Well, I mean, we are.
[00:56:27] Speaker B: I can't wait to be wrong next week. Like, this is the. When we look at our predictions next week and it's like, oh, GX2O Navi.
[00:56:35] Speaker A: Like, yeah, it could happen.
[00:56:38] Speaker B: What?
[00:56:38] Speaker A: And I think that LEC is hard to predict for reasons like that that, like, I think it's actually always closer than you expect it to be.
But also I legitimately think that GX has a couple of good matchups. Isma has been on on a tear and I think he is kind of the hero of GX right now. And Navi relax is very exciting to watch, but he doesn't like. What we've seen so far is that if he doesn't have a great game where he's on like the momentum pick and is able to kind of dictate the pace of the game, he can struggle much more. And oftentimes it comes down to Navi just kind of winning late game team fights or like relax just having crazy jungle passing and getting super far ahead to set himself up for those late game team fights. Because Poby will almost always struggle and I don't know if Jackie's gonna be the one to punish that, but I just feel like GX can keep riding the momentum that they have right now.
Hopefully they just can get some. Some good drafts here. Kyoto, let's. Let's get on those.
Said no engine up with some, some hyper carries that. That gets wins.
But Bickle, why do you have Navi? Why. Why talk me down here from the ledge?
[00:57:51] Speaker B: Why.
[00:57:51] Speaker A: Why am I wrong? And Navi wins this one.
[00:57:53] Speaker C: I'm just not sold with what we've seen from Giant X in terms of their performance against the legitimate bottom of the barrel.
Navi has looked decent in some tight matchups against mcoi and okay, they didn't really show that much life against vitality, but they beat mcoi, which is really good.
And the main thing for them has been how strong has been looking as a player. And I think he's just going to be the one that leads the charge on this.
[00:58:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I think he has to be, but that is why I'm like not convinced that they only have one bullet. Basically.
I, I think Navi is kind of a one trick team. SAMD and Paris can, can sometimes show up in team fights, but again, Poby's like consistently losing. I'm not a believer in maintor in the top lane either. So it's kind of like relaxer bust for me.
I mean, that being said, I guess a lot isn't much better.
Damn. It's gonna be a battle of the stinkers up there.
G2 versus SK. Let's cover that one because everyone should just immediately default G2. They're gonna win this one. They should smash those the bottom barrel. Sk.
But sk, I did notice. Always win.
[00:59:17] Speaker B: You're cooking a little too much right now, brother.
[00:59:19] Speaker A: They always win a 2 0. Yeah, they always win 20 in a weekend. If they play two series, SK is getting a 2 0. And it's not going to be against KC, so it's got to be G2. I got. I got SK2O. I'm smoking that good. Guys,
[00:59:35] Speaker C: Listen, the Fnatic one had some logic because Fnatic's actually just a bad team.
I.
I mean, crazier things.
[00:59:46] Speaker A: Fanatics. A bad team. And Fnatic beat G2. Sk beat Fnatic. Fnatic BG2. Sk beats G2. It's. It's that simple.
Linear.
[00:59:55] Speaker C: He's got a point there.
That point is why I am giving SK a game.
But I don't think G2 will do it twice. I think they already got there.
What the hell loss are you thinking against Fanatic?
If they do it against sk, I'm going to actually start to get concerned.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: Have you considered it's Wonder and Mickey versus their old team h little grudge match? No, I haven't considered it either way.
This one is. Don't predict with me, folks. It's probably G2. But I just. I got to. I got to give SK1.
He.
[01:00:39] Speaker B: He's trying to go back to back weeks and be like, I. I went against the norm. I did it.
[01:00:46] Speaker A: What if I. What if I just hit, you know, blackjack twice in a row? Like just bet the house on it, right?
[01:00:52] Speaker C: Okay, can we put a pause on this conversation and come back to it in like three matches when the shoe is on the other foot?
[01:01:01] Speaker A: Well, yeah, they're. They only ever do it once and I don't think that they're going to do it against Case.
[01:01:05] Speaker C: I'm not talking about the SK series. I'm talking about.
[01:01:09] Speaker B: We'll get there. We'll get there. Okay.
[01:01:10] Speaker A: Oh, wait a minute. What? Okay, you know what? Let's keep going. Sunday. We have vitality versus gx. We all have vitality across.
We all have vitality across the board. GX has A tough week. Navi and vitality. I think navi is also fraudulent with gx, but I don't think vitality is. So I have vitality. Taking the series.
Team Heretics versus McCoy. We all have McCoy 2o team Heretics, Booty cheeks. And not expecting a mid split jungle change to really write the ship for them enough to beat McCoy.
Now what the hell is going on here? Monday we got two of expected to be the most one sided matchups of the entire weekend. G2 versus shifters. KC versus SK, shifters versus G2. I have G2 drop in a game because I just don't think G2 are looking clean right now. Bickle has a two zero for G2. Do badger. What's this? You got shifters two one. Explain yourself.
[01:02:06] Speaker B: You know, sometimes, sometimes you just gotta go out on a limb and the limb snaps halfway on your way out.
I have a feeling this is gonna be a snapping the limb situation. But you know, you gotta take a gamble every once in a while. You know, put that.
[01:02:22] Speaker A: Yeah, gamble SKG too.
[01:02:24] Speaker B: Join me. Why would I put gamble on sk?
[01:02:28] Speaker A: Because I don't know, they're funnier.
You want to gamble shifters over sk?
[01:02:33] Speaker B: Ready for this? Here's my justification in all of this.
We have spent, we spent so long earlier talking about who's going to win a series first between shifters, Dignitas.
[01:02:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:44] Speaker B: We have thrown this curse out into the universe.
The airwaves are going to go. Ian's going to put up the. Ian's going to put up the show. Thank you, Ian for all of your hard work that you do at this point.
[01:02:55] Speaker A: Thank you, Ian.
[01:02:56] Speaker C: Good, thank you.
[01:02:57] Speaker B: And the goat.
And it's going to go out there and people are going to hear it and be like, oh man, you know, yeah, you know who does win first between shifters and dignitas? And then we hear the conversation. It's like, oh, they're calling the shot on fanatic. Like, oh, okay, yeah, you know what? You know, and it's just going to go. And it's the butterfly effect, the butterfly effect. And the wings are going to be flapping. I don't you know what's going to happen.
[01:03:22] Speaker A: I don't think that's what the butterfly effect is. That's about time travel. Are we time traveling, dear?
[01:03:26] Speaker B: Oh, you've never heard the butterfly flag butter
[01:03:31] Speaker C: butterfly.
[01:03:32] Speaker A: Well, yeah, but the butterfly effect is specifically in reference to if you change a small thing, it has big repercussions in like if you time travel and step on a butterfly that could like kill the president. Later, right?
[01:03:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Like a butterfly flaps its wings and something like that.
[01:03:51] Speaker A: Butterfly flaps its wings.
[01:03:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:03:53] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. So we're putting this out there that the shifters is this bad team because they. I mean, they are like, I'm not going to sugarcoat it. They're kind of bad.
But who would be the funniest team for them to win their next series against?
Let's be honest.
[01:04:10] Speaker A: It would be G2.
[01:04:11] Speaker B: Honestly, I'm not even. I've done vibes predictions before. This is meme's prediction. This is just. This is just. This would be. Wouldn't it be funny if G2 lost a shifter? And then you hear it is funny. He has the music as the series starts and it's just like, oh, God. Oh, no. Oh, no.
[01:04:26] Speaker A: It is funny. And you know what? I. My SK is also meme, so I can't judge you for it. I'm just surprised you're choosing shifters as the one. Especially after you're basically doubling down and being like, we all agreed shifters would win their series before dig, which means that we Caster cursed them, and now you're doubling down that they're actually gonna do it. That's the surprising part for me.
[01:04:47] Speaker B: It's a double negative. It makes a positive.
[01:04:50] Speaker A: Oh, I had thought of it that way. That's actually a good point.
[01:04:52] Speaker C: Your meme answers are only getting me slightly concerned because it's getting very close to G2 going from a team that's in the finals of first stand to a team that has a legitimate chance of missing the playoffs, which they did
[01:05:08] Speaker A: split one as well. So that would just be sandwiched narratives in between a finals appearance at international.
[01:05:14] Speaker C: If they lose either of the games this week, they have less than a 50% chance to make playoffs.
[01:05:23] Speaker A: They're making playoffs, guys. Yeah, they're going undefeated that final week in. In the the roadshow versus the most
[01:05:30] Speaker C: G2 thing ever is to lose to SK and shifters and then 3. 0 that final week.
[01:05:36] Speaker A: Yeah, they're gonna go in with like a 10% chance to make it. And then like, yeah, they have to win out and then they're gonna make it.
Yeah. Anyway, exciting prediction from Badger. We'll see which one of us is correct or if G2 make us both look like fools. Either way, we all have Casey 2 owing SK.
I could only give SK a 2. 0 over one of these teams. And I, I. Casey just are looking too clean. I think Casey are going to just kind of wipe the floor with this league leading into that final weekend. And again, they got the roadshow on the following week. On week five, once again, it's Navi Shifters finale.
Like, God, that's gonna be an easy run for them unless Navi step up and prove me wrong that they are the real deal. In which case maybe that one's interesting. But that's the interesting things about week four of LEC and all of our predictions.
Reminder that if you agree, disagree, if we miss out and on any big narratives from either LCS or lec, let us know in the community. Discord. You can find a link in the description wherever you are listening. But before we do the rest of the closeout outs, Badger, was there any point there with a natural segue towards the other hypothetical that you wanted to pose? Is it still relevant at this point?
[01:06:49] Speaker B: It's fantastically relevant at this point.
[01:06:52] Speaker A: All right. What, what's, what's the other. The closing hypothetical.
[01:06:55] Speaker B: Hit me.
Who is the MVP of Europe right now?
[01:07:01] Speaker A: Oh, good question.
I want to go Knock Knocko. I feel like Knock Knocko is my front runner.
But Lynces, honestly, Linsis is also popping off over on vitality
[01:07:21] Speaker C: and like that's. That's the issue I run into is I don't want to give it to like.
Because you want to give it to a good team, but you don't want it to be. There's so many good players.
I think for me it's relaxed because he's the only reason Navi is good.
[01:07:43] Speaker B: I.
[01:07:44] Speaker A: You can argue Poby light game.
[01:07:46] Speaker B: I am surprised it you. You came to my answer so quickly.
[01:07:51] Speaker A: Was it relge?
[01:07:53] Speaker B: I think Roulette is the mvp.
[01:07:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:07:54] Speaker B: Right now I.
[01:07:56] Speaker A: Are you going by the definition of like most valuable for his team?
[01:07:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I would go by because. Yeah, no, I always. Oh, I'm gonna take it.
Yeah, there's. It's MVP is a weird discussion.
[01:08:10] Speaker C: Exactly. It's weird definition because like people come at it speaking.
[01:08:16] Speaker B: You could say that like Yopa is the best, like the MVP of Europe, but like his team is two and four.
Like, honestly, actually he has a pretty good argument because without. Yeah. Like if you take somebody else, this team's probably over 06 with like a 1 in 14 game score.
Like, who am I kidding? I mean, I'm not gonna do that because like. But it's weird because you have to like look at it because there's like Clistus played five games. Casey's played five games this split.
[01:08:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:08:51] Speaker A: Yeah. I. I don't think it could go
[01:08:53] Speaker B: to anybody judging because like too few games.
[01:08:55] Speaker A: I think it's either vitality or Navi. Or, like, maybe you want to go like Yzma on Giant X looked good, but, like, again, I think it's kind of fraudulent. I. Yeah, it's. It's. I think Reletch is the other name other than Knock Knocko or Dude. Honestly, like, there's arguments for pretty much everybody, but Knock Knocko is my front runner still. I'm gonna stick with that one. But that's a good question. I like that question a lot. I. Yeah.
[01:09:21] Speaker C: If koi hadn't choked two games to. And then we're instead 40 instead of 2 2. I think JoJo could have an arc argument.
[01:09:29] Speaker A: That is. And even though they have lost a bunch, like, he still looked like the rock on the team.
Oh, man.
[01:09:37] Speaker C: Yeah. But I think it's just roulette right now.
[01:09:41] Speaker A: Nobody wants to throw out upset as an option.
[01:09:47] Speaker B: No, I really don't.
[01:09:48] Speaker C: Fair.
[01:09:49] Speaker B: I can't even think of a.
[01:09:50] Speaker A: That's all we needed to hear.
Great. Final hypothetical there, Badger. It's always a fun question. Ask, like, the way too early. MVP and stuff like that. Yeah.
All right, cool. Well, thank you, everybody, for listening along. That's another episode of the league rundown, breaking down LCS and LEC Bickle. If people wanted to leave us a review, how many stars would you recommend they leave on the podcast?
[01:10:13] Speaker C: God, it always comes to me.
[01:10:16] Speaker A: Oh, does it? Okay, sorry. Let me redo that.
Badger. People wanted to leave a review. How many stars would you recommend they leave on the podcast?
[01:10:23] Speaker B: 5. For the number of games that Casey has played. This split for some fucking reason, despite the fact that we're three weeks into the season.
[01:10:30] Speaker A: Yeah, kind of wild. And they're only playing one game this next week, by the way.
[01:10:35] Speaker C: Casey has played five games. Vitality has played 16.
[01:10:40] Speaker B: Okay, here's a. Here's a better way to put it. Casey has played five games. Vitality has played six series.
[01:10:47] Speaker C: Oh, my God.
[01:10:49] Speaker A: Whoa, dude. The LEC schedule, Vitality, SK And Heretics
[01:10:56] Speaker B: have all played six series at this point, and Casey has played five games.
[01:11:01] Speaker C: At the end of this week, Casey will have played three series. SK Will have played six. I will place eight.
[01:11:09] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:11:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And again, it's because Casey's got all the road shows.
So they're on the week five, they got three series. In the week seven, they got three series.
I do wonder, like, how much of a competitive advantage that legitimately is, because especially now that we know the next patch, the next, like, season update patch, which I believe is going to be before week seven.
It's going to be the big one with all of like the the quest updates for boots and like crazy changes to items and stuff and like like runes.
They're gonna have experience on stage with that going into playoffs and none of the other teams will. In fact only four of the teams would have experience with that going into playoffs. None of the other teams will.
I think there's like legitimate concern over competitive integrity at that point. If it wasn't as big of a patch I think that's less concerning but that's a big patch. It's a really big four teams to get stage experience with.
[01:12:06] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah. So hopefully everybody else is screaming but that is it for the league rundown this week. Thank you for listening along everybody. Again if you want to support the pod we got the Patreon, we got the merch shop Links are in the description Join the community Discord but most importantly everybody listening along just remember that we love you and we'll see you next time.
[01:12:27] Speaker B: Goodbye everyone.
[01:12:28] Speaker C: Peace.
[01:12:29] Speaker A: Bye.
