League Rundown - Episode 583: It was the best of draws, it was the worst of draws

[00:00:13] Speaker A: Gets a little too far here. He's gonna have to try and get himself out. Let me go. Tillery and the rest of the shots of fire. Zion is just killing the next Zion can eat it single handedly win the game by game by game by game by should be. [00:00:27] Speaker B: Oh my God. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Stupid passes through and manages to the table with Messiah tanking it up. I do not believe he just believe. I cannot understand this game. Unicorns of Love. It wasn't a mutant. The Nexus Foreign hello and welcome to episode 583 of the League Rundown. This is your 2025 World Swiss Check in episode and it's entitled it was the best of draws. It was the worst of Draws. I'm your host Kangas and I'm joined by two esteemed co hosts. We are back to back weeks here represented with a Bickle fresh out of the can. [00:01:28] Speaker B: If I. Oh wait, no. [00:01:29] Speaker A: I'd reverse it. Wait, Bickle's not out of the cans. Am I out of the can or I guess you're out of the can. Cats out of the bag for sure. [00:01:39] Speaker B: If I don't say anything, I can't put my foot in my mouth any more than I did last week or. [00:01:45] Speaker A: Any more than I just did. We got big old. We also have Badger who's usually the one out of the can. [00:01:49] Speaker C: I wonder who this title is in reference to. I can't imagine who you could be possibly. Yeah, who could have the best point. [00:01:55] Speaker A: Who could have the worst? [00:01:55] Speaker C: The best of draws and the worst of draws Wild. [00:01:58] Speaker A: I'm sure we'll talk about it later here, but this is gonna be kind of like a midpoint check in for the Swiss draw. I know that the uploads have been a little sporadic. Sorry about that. But thanks for keeping with us everybody for just like when the episodes are coming out. This one we are technically recording during this kind of break period before the next kind of half of Swiss stage starts. But by the time you are hearing it it will be hopefully only one day late from like kind of when games are going to be expected. But we still just wanted to give our thoughts on how things have shaken out so far and catch everybody up in case they weren't able to catch all the games. Just kind of what the big storylines at Worlds are currently. Because gentlemen, it did not go how we expected. [00:02:41] Speaker C: Our takes have aged very well. I don't know what you're talking about right now. [00:02:45] Speaker B: It's not like any of our takes were a burn to the ground like six hours after we actually recorded the episode or anything. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Okay, that was. Yes, literally. [00:02:55] Speaker B: Surely no one caused this podcast to get like a two star review or anything. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Oh, no. Didn't you ask for a two star review last week? I'm pretty sure that was like. [00:03:07] Speaker B: No, I asked for a five star review and then we caveated, saying that if a certain situation happened, which would totally never. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Oh, that's to give us a two star review. And yeah, hey, you know, at least we can say our audience is honest. You know, they listen, they follow through. But we're gonna get through some global news bits before in worlds proper. Up first, a couple of roster shakeups did happen this past week. Badger, would you say the Evil's been defeated? Shopify Rebellion had some news that they dropped already earlier this week. [00:03:41] Speaker C: I. That's not the one that I was thinking of what you were saying. Evil has been defeated. [00:03:47] Speaker A: Okay, well, so what I'm referencing for Shopify is the mid lane because Palafox was officially dropped. [00:03:53] Speaker B: He has a different mind. [00:03:56] Speaker A: He received incredible, you know, community, you know, just heat all split. Oh my gosh. [00:04:03] Speaker C: Genuinely, I feel really bad for him because he got so much flack. But like, I mean when you're, when you perform like he did for most of the season, like you're, you're going to get that. He unfortunately. [00:04:22] Speaker A: So what we saw was his top end is from my experience, from my eye this year and even factoring in past years now when he's playing at his top, he's a great player, but he plays at his top like 10% of the time. Like it's not even close to consistent. Like Contracts is a more consistent player than Paolo Fox and Contracts is. Has his entire career has been known as like really coin flippy. But man, he's good when he flips heads, right? So you don't want to be like a worse version of that. And that's kind of what it felt like Palafox's past year was. So wish the best of luck to him. Do we think he gets another shot? Is now the next question on a lot of people's minds. Badger, like, do you think that there's enough in Palafox that other teams would be looking at him? Or do you think this is his last foray as a pro player? [00:05:12] Speaker C: I mean, I think some teams, there's going to be some team that takes a chance on him at this point. Like looking through, even if it's not in like one of the major regions right away. Like if, I guess if he goes to like LTA south like that might be what he needs or spend a year on like the Luminosity Rebuild project. That is definitely probably incoming at this point, just based on how they didn't qualify. Who knows who's gonna still be on that team and who won't be at this point. So it just. I. I don't think this is the last we've seen in Palafox. I'll just answer that. I don't know where he would go at this point. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean there are teams looking for mid laners, but I, I think I'm the opposite opinion. I would be surprised if he is picked up based on. From my understanding, a big part of him getting picked up for Shopify was that they were trying to capture some of that NRG magic, weren't able to recreate it. I don't see another GM having the same process, mental process of like, oh yeah, it's like Palafox and contracts that we're getting together type of deal. So yeah, we'll. We'll see. We'll see if Pal Fox is able to move on anywhere else but Bickle. What's the next news bit? Was that you that just added something because you added something that I had missed initially. [00:06:35] Speaker B: Yes. I remembered this in the back of my mind and double checked to make sure I wasn't taking crazy pills. Lion has parted ways with their support Lions, so more roster changes. [00:06:47] Speaker A: Okay, so this one I'm actually realizing now, when I saw you add that to the doc, I was like, what? And I checked Twitter and that was a couple days ago as of this being posted. So that just did not pop up on my feed. But that is interesting to think about because Lions was one of the LLA players that was playing for lion, which was an LLA organization. I know it's a little awkward now because we're now two different regions. It's no longer going to be the lta. It's back to LCS and cb. Lol. But still, from my understanding, LLA players were gonna kind of get like mini grandfathered in. Like it was gonna be the same rules for you can play LLA teams can like play as many of those players as they want, so maybe they get a different LOA support. I don't know what the rest of the roster would look like without Lions there, but definitely sucks for him because he literally name changed because he's such a big fan of the OG org Lion and it's like a big reason why he wanted to go pro to begin with. And from talking with him. It was his dream to be on this organization and play for them. So that's got to be heartbreaking for him. That's tough. All right, well, a bit of a surprise one right there. Big what else had happened, though, because one of the other yellow teams had a couple of movements here this past week as well. [00:08:03] Speaker B: Here is what Badger feels is the evil has been defeated. Dignitas has a new general manager. [00:08:15] Speaker A: Bakery is out the probably. I. Does anybody even know like, other gms? I feel like Bakery is one of the only GMS people truly know because they hate him so much. They just like this guy. He gets all the flag for everything that happens at Dig. And you know what? I hate to say it because Badger, if you are truly claiming that the evil has been defeated, he got moved to just vp, you know, status. So he is get him away vice president. He does not handle anything gm. I believe he technically was also held that title before. He just was handling GM responsibilities. Correct. But now he will no longer be handling GM responsibilities. I am personally very excited for who they have coming in, though. Jonathan Comicaz Platypus was his kind of, like, gamer tag. He no longer calls himself that, understandably. He just goes by Jonathan now. We've had him on the podcast in the past, actually, we have. Really, really, really fun guy. Loved what he did at clg. And then n. He is the type of GM that I think every org should want to pick up because he has a vision for how to build a roster and he knows the scene at such an intimate level that he's able to. First off, when he talks to players, they trust him. And second of all, he just knows so many of the players and the developing players too, that he can build these kind of more Moneyball rosters. Kind of like that old CLG roster where, like, Poom showed up out of nowhere and like, who's Poom? And then like, even Luger coming in was kind of a wild card. And I know, like, they didn't age as well and they were dropped eventually for, you know, like, Olay and. And FBI later on when it came to nrg. But still, Jonathan has a good eye for building stuff. So, Badger, are we excited for this one? [00:10:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I would. I would love, love, love to see Dignitas, you know, be a contending team. [00:10:10] Speaker A: So really, I can hear the passion in your voice. [00:10:14] Speaker C: I. I don't know. It's just better when all of the teams, like, if we're gonna have three slots at Worlds, we need to earn it. I'M gonna be honest because, like, Yeah, I mean 100 Thieves is having a really good performance right now despite all odds being against them based on, you know, the best of draws and the worst of draws. Like, but like, even then, like, I mean, if C9 was here, like, where would C9 slot into it? Or like TL or if you were looking at these other teams, like, if we're gonna have, you know, if we're gonna have three slots for na, we need to make it worth it because. [00:10:51] Speaker A: Three slots with eight teams in the region still. Yeah. From my understanding, and I don't know if this is a hundred percent been confirmed and I. I don't know. Like, this is also me saying, like, I have no insider information on this, but my assumption is we're gonna have eight teams next year for lcs. I know that we're going back to the original brands. I haven't heard anything about like going back to the 10 team format. So if we have eight teams and three spots at Worlds, all eight of our teams better have a shot of. Of top three. Like that's barely top 50 in the league. [00:11:22] Speaker B: So. [00:11:22] Speaker A: I agree. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Can't do worse than they did let this year. It's not physically possible. [00:11:29] Speaker A: I don't. Well, hey, never count Dig out. [00:11:34] Speaker B: But they went 03 in summer into doing nothing. Yeah. [00:11:40] Speaker A: Yeah, that was tough. Hey, they had Photon. I. Again, I want Photon to stay. I actually really liked when I got to chat with Photon a little bit behind the scenes. Really, really nice guy and seems to really want to do well and like make this roster work. But he just was like, I. If things just felt out of my control, man, like I just came into a boomed roster. I understand that. But I also. Dignitas is one. They are, they are the longest running organ na at this point. [00:12:05] Speaker C: They. [00:12:05] Speaker A: They predate C9. They are the legacy org in the LCS. I don't want them to be the laughingstock of the league and the thing that everyone shits on. I. I actually think that the league will be best if like Team Liquid, C9 dig are fighting for the world spots. Like, could you imagine a world where Dig is actually in the conversation? It. It's so hard to imagine because it's been so long since that's ever been the case and they barely are like ever in top four conversation. But still they have so much history in the league that like they can lean on that. We can lean on that as a broadcast. I know a lot of it's like so ancient history now that maybe it Won't land. But like there's something there and I, I just, I want the org to do well. [00:12:49] Speaker B: Looking at how we expect the off season to go, I do think they will be more competitive with the rest of the region and I also do think it's going to be really competitive for those world spots though there's a pessimist in me that thinks the reason it's gonna be more competitive is I think Flyquest is gonna lose their best players and be regressing to the meme. [00:13:11] Speaker A: Oh, I don't like hearing that. [00:13:15] Speaker B: Disappearing. [00:13:16] Speaker A: So yeah, we are unfortunately not beating the one team region allegations. Although he's a little bit of that got beat in a world. We'll talk about that when we get to like the Swiss stage stuff. [00:13:25] Speaker B: But yeah, hopefully that team can do well next year. Oh wait, they're not gonna exist. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But yeah, with Dignitas hiring Jonathan as gm, there also comes the news that Furia down in LTA Sewell, soon to be cb. Lol. They released Think Card as head coach. Now Think Card and Jonathan were GM and head coach for CLG and NRG together. Heavy, heavy rumors that Think Card is gonna head back to North America and be Dignitas's head coach. And I'm just telling you right now, if they have an entire three months here left in this off season with a GM like Jonathan and a head coach like Thinkard, they can build a very exciting roster. And I, I really do think that just those two alone, not even knowing what players they have, I'm excited. I'm excited for what's happening in Dignitas's off season. And that's something I cannot say. I. I don't think I've ever been excited in an off season, now that I actually think about it. [00:14:21] Speaker C: So. Hold on a second. Wait, wait, wait. This feels wrong. [00:14:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it really does. [00:14:26] Speaker B: Not in the script. [00:14:29] Speaker A: That's all the roster news that we were able to catch ourselves at least this week. But there was one other variety topic I wanted to cover. Did anybody follow the story, the news story about Dokla and how popular he's getting in Chinese? [00:14:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:45] Speaker A: Oh yeah, it's great. [00:14:46] Speaker C: I love it. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Hilarious. [00:14:48] Speaker C: And then Golden Glue was making videos as well, posting them. [00:14:53] Speaker A: All right, so Badger for anybody who maybe has not seen these because these were posted on. Formerly known as Twitter. Now x Dokla has been very like, he's posting every day, basically morning and night videos. But like, what was the context? Like, why did, like the. Why is he popping off on Chinese social Media. [00:15:10] Speaker C: I, I, I don't know. I just think it's just the fact that he was just like being super open about stuff and like being like, you know what? I, I didn't. They didn't the 100 Thieves account post the pio sick God has abandoned us. But we will enjoy it. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. No, they've been very mimi about their draw. I mean, the, the name of this episode was titled the Best of Draws, Worst of Draws. They're on the worst to draw side. They've had a really. And Dokla every time is just like crashing out on Twitter. And then the next video, it's like a really cool, calm act that he's like, no, that's fine. [00:15:46] Speaker C: He just has like, good morning. Like, meow. Like. [00:15:52] Speaker A: He'S always shirtless too, in the video. [00:15:53] Speaker C: Yeah, he's just laying in bed shirtless in his hotel. [00:15:56] Speaker A: Dude. He recreated. Does anybody know the Chinese Beaver? I think, or maybe. Yeah, yeah, I think it's a beaver. The Chinese beaver meme where it's like, I don't know what the movie was, but there's some like, Chinese animated film where like a, a beaver is having like a empowered, impassioned speech that they're giving somebody. Yes. And it got memed on a lot like tick tock and like Instagram and stuff here. The west, just because, like, we don't know what he's saying, but it's just funny to see, like beaver be so passionate. Dokla recreated that audio with it, like, but him pretending to be like, like doing all the actions. The beaver was. That one got like 15k likes on Twitter, which just doesn't happen in esports these days, and popped off on Weibo. And everybody in China is apparently, like Doko's biggest fan. But it also started, and this is the segue here, it started in round one, Swiss stage that 100 thieves actually were able to pull an upset. That's right. It's time to talk about worlds. Reminder before we hop into it, though, that if we missed any news stories, you can let us know in our community. Discord. You can find a link for that in the description wherever you're watching. And if you want to support the pod, we have a Patreon and we have a merch shop. Links for those are also in the description. But now it's time to talk about worlds because 100 Thieves story. Bickle. This was a big one. They pulled off the upset in round one and I want to start there because that's got to be like the craziest surprise and story that we had in all of words. I. I was 100. 100 things were just going to crash out. Oh three. And just bomb out of Worlds, but they were able to do it. They took down Top D Sports. Right. Now, who did they have? Round one. [00:17:31] Speaker B: It was blg. Blg. You know, the one seed of the LPL that it was. Yeah. All of us last week were saying there's no chance in hell this team wins. I definitively said they were the worst team at Worlds by far, that they were going to go 03, including a 02 in that last round and bomb out. And literally four to five hours later, they smack the ever living hell out of blg. [00:18:03] Speaker A: Yup. [00:18:04] Speaker B: Like, just. It's absurd and I don't know who 100 thieves paid, like, what they sacrificed to get that. Well, we do know what they sacrificed. It's their ability to get any sort of a decent draw because their prize for beating BLG was to go against Top Esports. And in losing to Top Esports, they got to go against Hanwha Life. And now that they've lost a Hanwha Life, their elimination, by the way, in the 12 match is against T1. [00:18:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:40] Speaker A: The other options were VKS, MCOI team, Secret Whales. They couldn't rematch against BLG in the 1 2, but, like, I feel so much better against any of those other teams. T1 is the worst one that they could have drawn and of course they have to get him. That's crazy. [00:18:56] Speaker B: It's just hilarious. Like, someone gets screwed by the draw every time. It just happened to be them. [00:19:03] Speaker C: I just happened to be 100 of these this time. [00:19:06] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm telling you, the. The skins department, they. They break the. The draws for T1. Although actually T1 didn't have the easiest. [00:19:13] Speaker C: Can we talk about. Can we. I don't mean to pivot this, but, like, doing the title, I mean, we gotta go worst of draws. [00:19:19] Speaker A: We. [00:19:20] Speaker C: Now we got to talk about the best. [00:19:21] Speaker A: I was gonna talk about what the. [00:19:23] Speaker C: Is this KT Rolster draw? [00:19:25] Speaker A: I swear, they got so. [00:19:28] Speaker C: Okay, so KT goes 3 0, which clearly everybody on the podcast predicted last week because he definitely had full faith and we're so, you know that E word. Excited. Excited for KT Rolster going into this. They draw Koi Secret Whales, who I think was a really good matchup for them because, like, the strength of Secret Whales is just like the idea that they want to play through mid jungle. And like, KT Rolster has one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse and they're mid lane right now. And then they got top esports. Who I just. [00:20:04] Speaker A: Oh my God. [00:20:05] Speaker B: We got the fraud off. [00:20:07] Speaker C: We got the fraud off. And it was just. It was the most stoppable force versus movable object like best of three to get out of Swiss that you could possibly imagine at that point. [00:20:20] Speaker B: Badger, you call that the best of draws? I see your KT draw and raise the Billy Billy draw. Who have played 100. [00:20:29] Speaker A: Oh yeah. [00:20:30] Speaker C: Actually you know Billy Billy, G2 and. [00:20:33] Speaker B: Now get VKs, mind you. And despite all this. [00:20:40] Speaker A: That'S actually insane. They drew three now four western teams and they could get eliminated. That would be insane. That. That's got to be like the worst ever. I fear for the players lives going back to China, bro. [00:20:55] Speaker C: I don't think. I don't think go back to their apartments like yeah houses or whatever. [00:21:02] Speaker B: I don't think they've been allowed to leave the state stadium like legitimate. [00:21:06] Speaker A: I'm telling you right now. The. The sound just the. The. The crowd during the Hundred Thieves BLG game was just silent and it was so funny, man. I loved it. [00:21:20] Speaker C: They actually turned. Were they playing? Are they in Beijing? [00:21:25] Speaker A: I don't remember where the first leg is, but Beijing's one of them. But either way. Yeah, so. So I had us all put down like the biggest surprises. Yeah, biggle, you put BLG drawing only the west and going 1 2. Badger, you put KT going 3 0. Both of those big surprises. I put one that I think deserves to be up there too, and that's CFO almost going 3 0. They didn't quite get there. They were one game away. They won their first two best of ones. They're in the promotion round to get into the. The knockout stage and they win game one versus AL from lpl. They do get reverse swept in the best of three then. But like CFO man, we. We went into this thinking like okay, FlyQuest CFO, G2. We don't know who is like definitively the best out of those because all regions kind of feel like a one team region. And these are the best of the. Each region can. Can show man CFO look a lot better flag west and G2 like this. Yeah. [00:22:24] Speaker C: Oh yeah. No, it's definitely insane this team. So even like game two, they had moments where you're just like oh, can they do it? And then like the mid game happens and the. The bar fight that like I said, the. This team has never seen a bar fight that they just don't think they can win no matter what the odds are. And they were. They were definitely punching above their weight class in that game too. And then game three is just, you know, Shanks and Shanks taking over. Flandre and Hope working really well together in tandem to get, you know, combos down so that Shanks can jump in and out of these fights just in impossible situations. But like the Oysters, when they went up 10 on anyone's legend, I'm thinking, holy, this team's like, this team could win worlds. [00:23:13] Speaker A: Like, yeah, I legit. I honestly, I had the same thought. And that is a crazy thought to have that like. And. And part of it is that they embarrassed Fnatic. That was a super. [00:23:23] Speaker C: Oh my gosh, there was that game was. That was the bully. The bully beatdown of the week. [00:23:29] Speaker A: I don't even, like, I don't even want to talk about that one because it was so one sided. Then they do almost the same thing to T1. They beat T1 in an insane fashion, like domination. And I was like, dude, this CFO is legit. They just crushed the reigning world champs. And then they go against Ale. They win game one pretty convincingly. And I was like, okay. And then again, competitive game two, Game three was what it was. I just want to give props to CFO from the lcp. Really, really good showing all year. They've had a great showing. [00:24:00] Speaker B: And for cfo, we were all expecting Hongq to big the be the big standout for this team that's kind of making the plays. Fucking doggo dog. This man's Draven. I think he's going to be perma band for the rest of the tournament. Legitimately. He was dialing on T1 on Draven. [00:24:20] Speaker C: He was. [00:24:21] Speaker A: The way he plays is just so fun to watch. I think they are in my current, like opinion, obviously there's many more games to play, so I might change my opinion. But right now they're the most fun team to watch at work. [00:24:32] Speaker B: If I'm remembering correct, he solo killed Doran top lane. He solo killed Gumayushi mid lane. And then I think he, he killed somebody in a 2v1 mid lane. Sorry, a 1v2 mid lane where he was chasing both of them down. [00:24:50] Speaker A: He's got that doggo in him. What can I tell you? [00:24:52] Speaker B: You know, and even in the losses, he was playing phenomenal on Lucian. [00:24:57] Speaker A: I feel like the way the team plays, they're so fast, they're so explosive and they are playing a slightly different tempo than a Lot of the other teams at Worlds, which again, makes them very exciting to watch because their ad carries willing to just pop off and they still have players like Hankyu and the in the wings to kind of be that secondary carry for them too. So cfo, I think pretty much almost all of us had them making it out of Swiss stage. I think it was only Yanni that did not. But he was a little more lpl biased in his. But I. Yeah, I would not be surprised if they even win their. Their next round here, despite the opponent that they're up against. So that was my biggest surprise. But next up, I. I wanted to cover kind of the craziest stories. I already mentioned 100 Thieves draws. We talked about that. Actually. I think Badger brought that. What are some of the other craziest stories that have happened so far in the Swiss stage? We're about halfway through getting ready for knockouts in about a week, but so far, what. What are the ones that we want to highlight here? Badger, I want to. I want to hear from you first. [00:25:56] Speaker C: So I put the round four draw because, God, there's absolute cinema. And then if you go up a tier, it's this draw. We get G2 Fly Quest. We get the T100 Thieves series. We get. God, what else do we get? [00:26:16] Speaker A: Genji Top Esports is pretty banger. [00:26:23] Speaker C: Versus the Oysters. Oh, my gosh. I mean, we had to. We had to sacrifice some of them in the 12 of just like koi versus secret whales. [00:26:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. I think there's only. Legitimately, there's only one dud and I honestly think it's BLG vks. I think that one's gonna be. [00:26:39] Speaker C: I think that one's gonna be kind of rough. [00:26:41] Speaker B: I'm gon completely honest. I think that's going to be a closer series than we expect. And it's. [00:26:46] Speaker A: There's a chance I'm still gonna give BLG some more respect, but MCO versus Team Secret Whales is, I honestly think, still kind of exciting because Team Secret Whales in their losses have still looked competitive and they were able to win their first round versus vks, of course, but still, like, they showed that they can take down the weaker western teams. I don't think it's going to be a, like, one of the best series at Worlds, but I think it's going to be a competitive series. And then the rest, I think, are all really competitive. Maybe less 100 these versus T1. I've still. I think it was a bit of a fluke hundred Thieves got the BLG win. I haven't like fully revived my faith. [00:27:25] Speaker C: In them, but hey, man, it's best of one maybe. [00:27:28] Speaker B: I don't think it's a fluke in the sense that 100 Thieves played extremely well and they're not going to play that well again. I think it's a more fluke in them. BLG is just really bad. [00:27:39] Speaker A: Yeah. They did not show up at this world and it's not best of ones. From this point on, it's gonna be all best of threes here. 200 Thieves will have to win two versus T1. I'm giving them one spoiler for. For predictions later. I think they can get one of the three. Getting two of the three, that's a little tough. But yeah. So other than four banger stuff, the other thing. [00:28:01] Speaker C: Can we talk about. Can we talk about Jarvis win rate? [00:28:05] Speaker B: My God. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Oh, yes. Was it one in nine right now? It is. [00:28:09] Speaker C: I'm checking it. It is two and eight right now. [00:28:14] Speaker A: Oh, it's two and eight. Are you sure? I thought it was 09 and then it got one win when EU headshot themselves. [00:28:22] Speaker C: Yeah, no, it is actually. Yeah. Wait, no, wait, it's this. Hold on. Yeah, it's one of nine because. [00:28:29] Speaker B: Okay, yeah, it's two and nine. I think technically. [00:28:34] Speaker A: Are we counting play ins? Did it win a game in plans? [00:28:38] Speaker B: If you're counting plans, then it's two and eight. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Okay, well, I was just counting whatever. [00:28:46] Speaker C: The. [00:28:46] Speaker A: The league esports like, Twitter account kept tweeting out the updates. I could have missed an update. They'll work out another one. [00:28:53] Speaker B: It was loss. It had no wins going into the O2 matchups. And then Carson won on it. PSG Talon and Razor 100 for Fnatic. [00:29:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Okay. Okay, cool. [00:29:06] Speaker C: That's what I thought. I thought it was two and eight, but yeah, it's. [00:29:08] Speaker B: It's bad. [00:29:10] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. [00:29:11] Speaker A: It's still bad. So low. And it went a long time before insane. [00:29:15] Speaker C: Because Jarvan is the best jungler. Like, Jarvan is essentially the best jungler on paper. On this patch going into Worlds, you. [00:29:24] Speaker A: Did put him as your highest pick man fan. [00:29:28] Speaker C: I did put him as my highest episode. Yeah. Which is totally wrong. But it's fine. [00:29:34] Speaker A: I mean, is it? I feel like he has been played. Oh, yeah, Oreo. [00:29:37] Speaker B: I think it's Orianna. [00:29:38] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:29:39] Speaker C: Oriana's at a 96.8%. [00:29:42] Speaker B: Jesus. [00:29:43] Speaker C: And then it's. It's Orianna, Yunara, Azir, Nico, Poppy, and Those are all 25 plus of the 31 games. So there's only one game that Orianna has not been picked ban or already played. [00:30:00] Speaker A: Yeah, in a fearless. [00:30:01] Speaker C: Yeah, in a fearless setting. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Yeah, we both had a zero, so maybe you could still make it. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Well, hey, I think J4 is A. A bit of a feast or famine champion by design. Like, you don't scale incredibly well and you can make action happen early, but if you fall behind, it can be tough to come back. [00:30:26] Speaker C: So I think. I think the big thing for him is all of the. All of the ads on this patch because genuinely speaking, like, the reason you pick Jarvan into, like, a Jinx or like a Felios or something like that is because they can't get out of the. The alt. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Well. Yep. [00:30:42] Speaker C: Think of the ads that are having a high presence right now. We got Caitlyn, we got Yunara, we got Kaisa, can jump out of it. We've got Ezreal, we got Corki. Like, you get all these champions. Lucian, like, every one of these champions has dashes or ways to get out of it. And it's just like, oh, well, why pick Jarvan at that point? You can play poppies, you can play Wukongs, you can play Kianas. [00:31:07] Speaker A: And Sinjo's Wukong in particular has been a menace at Worlds this year. The Wukong Games, where they pop off. They. [00:31:15] Speaker B: I think the true menace of this tournament right now is Scion. [00:31:19] Speaker A: That's a good point, actually. Yeah. [00:31:21] Speaker C: Scion and Xin Zhao are both Ted and 2. [00:31:24] Speaker B: That's absurd. [00:31:26] Speaker C: Yeah, that is. [00:31:28] Speaker A: Wow. [00:31:28] Speaker C: So Poppy, Poppy, Corky, Zion and Scion and Xin Xiao all have an 83.3 win rate. And that's like, you take out the champions that have only been, like, played once or twice. Like, those. Those four have the highest win rate with a five and one on Poppy, a five and one on Corky, and then a ten and two on both Scion and Xinjiao. [00:31:49] Speaker B: Ten and two on. That's absurd. [00:31:52] Speaker C: It's. That is really insane. [00:31:54] Speaker A: And there are, like, better matchups into the sign. I feel like the sign's been blind picks so often and it's just not getting punished properly. We haven't seen, like, a cho gas into Scion. We haven't really seen. [00:32:07] Speaker C: Well, like, the thing with it is just how many swaps we're seeing at this point. And Scion in swaps is one of the. One of the top laners that I would love to take into a swap if I was a team. Just like yeah, yeah, we'll send our ad carry. [00:32:20] Speaker B: I think Scion is the premier lane swap champion. It is his bread and butter used. [00:32:27] Speaker A: To be cassante, but he's been nerfed enough now that Scion is kind of like replaced him now as the. You cannot kill him and even if you do, he's just gonna farm the wave anyway. So. Yeah, doesn't matter. [00:32:38] Speaker B: I will say this makes me say thank God for fearless come best of five. [00:32:43] Speaker A: So yes, you only have to worry about one of him. But the funny thing is the first two rounds of Worlds is a Swiss stage in a fearless best of one. So he will make it in now best of threes. [00:32:55] Speaker B: Yes. [00:32:55] Speaker A: Better. It will get even better Invest of fives. All right, so what are the other big stories here? So crazy stories. Bickle, you had put Al and KT both going 3, 0. We already kind of talked about that. But I want to specify something. Not only did both of you have one of those teams as the weakest Eastern team, the worst showing, AKA the longest walk award. Bickle, you gave kt, Badger, you gave al. I will give you credit that each of you had the other team making it into top eight. So Badger had KT made the top eight, Pickle had Al making a top eight. But you each thought the other one was going to be the worst Eastern team and they both are the first ones making it out. [00:33:37] Speaker B: That's the six of us that gave predictions. Only Yanni has both of them in the top eight. Me, Badger, Kangas, RMC and Miko all had one of them missing it. [00:33:49] Speaker A: Yeah, and most of it was Al Faith. Only Badger and Mikko had KT faith over Al Faith. So that's very funny. None of us had them. Three of them. Not a single person on the cast. In fact, I'm the only one that had Al 31. Everybody else had the KT or Al or both in a three, two, you know, bracket. So that's very funny. Props to them for having a great draw and and making it out. Reminder that statistically, if half of the teams at Worlds were a were monkeys on a keyboard, a a team with monkeys on a keyboard would make it to knockout stage. [00:34:27] Speaker C: I'm just remind everybody of the math. [00:34:30] Speaker A: We'Re dealing with here. So that was. Yeah, crazy stories. Now, best games in series. This is one. Just because there were so many that happened, I think it's unrealistic to cover all of them. I just want each of us to provide our kind of favorite game or series that happened. And it looks like Based on what we all wrote down, we all have something different, but with one shared, you know, variable here. I put anyone's Legend versus Gen G, Badger put anyone's Legend versus cfo and Bickle put anyone's Legend versus hle. The common thread is anyone's Legends games have been bangers. Bickle start off with why did you have anyone's Legend versus hle? The best of one to start off anyone's Legends. Really impressive run to the 3. 0. [00:35:17] Speaker B: This was the, in my mind, the premier matchup of the first round and it lived up to the hype. It was such an exciting matchup back and forth that really could have gone either way. And in the end it was just crazy back and forth. You got to see outplays from both teams. You got to see Viper on On my life pop off and nearly carry his team through. But in the end it just wasn't enough as AL puts it all together and comes back and wins the game. [00:35:49] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, agreed. And mine's pretty similar. For the premier match from the second round, both Al and Gen G were 1 0. And this was less for what we saw in game. I think the game was fine, but it was more so the narrative around the win in that al. Again, expectations were so low and it's like, okay, sure they were able to beat hle. That's cool. That's one Korean team. But like, surely they're not going to be Gen G. Like, they're the bosses of the LCK and they beat Gen G and then it's like, okay, two LCK teams in a row plus the first seed LCK team. That really is when I started being like, okay, I think we were just all wrong about anyone's legend and the form they're going to be in. So I just love that they were able to conquer. Not only it's rare for LPL teams to pick up wins versus LCK teams in general. They almost always dominate everyone else. But LCK they struggle against. But then being able to be two in a row, including the first seed, very, very big stuff. But Badger, why do you have the the best of three AL versus cfo? [00:36:55] Speaker C: I think genuinely this is one of the best series to look at from a perspective of like you have one team winning in a dominating fashion. You have another game where a team, they just. [00:37:09] Speaker A: It. [00:37:09] Speaker C: They're just slugfest games. Like, I'll just keep reiterating it. Cfo, bar fight team. Like you just. [00:37:19] Speaker A: Yeah, they just. [00:37:19] Speaker C: They just love to get down and dirty. Like if there is A team in League of Legends that was those, like, slapping competitions where you try and just slap your opponent in the face so hard to like knock him out like that cfo. They're just like, oh, oh, oh, we hit you. Now it's our turn. Like, just hit me. Hit me real good. Like, just. That's them. And then Al just had the genuinely Shanks LeBlanc game that he had in that game. Three is one of the best performances I've seen of an assassin in like, international play in years at this point. It was the way that he was playing LeBlanc and navigating the map and using his team as like the initiation tool and like looking to destroy. Backline was an immaculate performance. And I will give Shanks all the credit in the world. I was so down on you coming into this tournament. And then. And then you came out and. And you secured your team. The three zero. [00:38:16] Speaker A: Yeah. And again, I think it's. It's really cool that we all picked an Al game. All different ones too. But it just shows why this team really exceeded expectations and I think deserved the 3 0kt's strength of schedule, you know, I think is more questionable. You can't really question AL strength of schedule. They beat two LCK teams and CFO who are like playing the best that they've played all year and have already been scary at international events and then also reverse swept them in the series. So props to Al. Great games so far. Sad we won't get to see them until the knockout stage. But hey, they'll get one of the three two teams in their round one draw. I believe that's how it works. Or is it random? No, it's. [00:39:02] Speaker B: It's truly. [00:39:02] Speaker A: It's not fully randomly. [00:39:03] Speaker B: No. They get. They're guaranteed one of the three two teams. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Okay, that's how I thought it was cool. [00:39:09] Speaker B: Three O teams will be on opposite sides of the bracket and are guaranteed a 3:2 team. [00:39:14] Speaker A: Whereas it's just not protected by region. They correct. [00:39:17] Speaker B: There's no region protection. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Yes. Okay, there we go. Thank you for catching me up. [00:39:22] Speaker B: Congratulations on going three zero. Your benefit is you get to face T1 round one. [00:39:28] Speaker A: Could you imagine, I mean, if T1 mega to knockouts, they're gonna be three two. They have to win all like the two best of threes in a row. Speaking of, we got predictions here to talk about the next stage again. By the time you hear this podcast episode, these will have already happened. But we want to give our thoughts regardless. This is not in order of when they're being played. This is in order of the. The Swiss stage graphic that was put out on social. So we're just going to start with the 20 teams or, sorry, the 21 teams. If they win this best of three, they qualify for elimination stage. Up first, the Best of the West, Baby J. G2 versus Fly Quest in a best of three to see who makes it out. Now a Badger. You had mentioned the best of draws, the worst of draws, referencing kt. It was also referencing Fly Quest because oh my God. We could do it again, dude. Get a Fly Quest at the knockout stage with only beating Western teams. Although technically, I guess they did take a game off of the team Secret Whales. Yeah, but like they. They would have beaten VKS team Secret Whales and then G2 to make knockouts. That would be hilarious. And do we. Do we all think FlyQuest is getting it? Let's look at the predictions here. Yeah, we. No, no. Bickle, you actually Disagree. You think G2 gets this 1, 2, 1. Why do you think G2 takes it? [00:40:50] Speaker B: I think both of these teams have had some room for improvement in general. [00:41:00] Speaker C: That's a nice way to put it. [00:41:04] Speaker A: Sound like my mother. [00:41:06] Speaker B: But I think G2's win against BLG, even if it is BLG underperforming, is more impressive than anything FlyQuest has done so far. And G2 always finds a way to turn up. Plus, this is a minor thing that's actually really funny. It's very possible this is a rematch in quarterfinals because a 3:1 team will draw a 3:2 team. So we could get G2 versus FlyQuest in quarters with us. [00:41:36] Speaker C: Oh my gosh. [00:41:39] Speaker A: But that works no matter who wins this, right? [00:41:41] Speaker B: Yes, it does. [00:41:42] Speaker A: But might as well have fly quest beat G2 twice. Let's go. [00:41:46] Speaker B: G2 has been performing better, I think. [00:41:49] Speaker A: Okay, fair. [00:41:50] Speaker B: Even with a lot of positions going towards Fly Quest in terms of strength, caps will always be caps. And I just think G2 has a way of leveling up when they need to. That Fly Quest also looks really good. I think this will be a really close series and I can see it going either way. And I think some of Fly Quest is going to be on G2 next year, but I think G2 is just looking really solid. [00:42:18] Speaker A: All right, well, me and badger of fly quest 2 one badger. Why do you have Fly Quest taking it? [00:42:23] Speaker C: I believe in the boys. I also have Broken Blade as my biggest overhyped player. Oh, you did? I got any. I kind of need that to like. [00:42:32] Speaker A: We had strong thoughts about that. [00:42:34] Speaker C: I need. I need that to happen. Like, I mean. [00:42:36] Speaker B: I mean, he did put bit in the bin. [00:42:38] Speaker C: I need him. I need him to get put in the bin now or else I'm gonna look like a total fraud. [00:42:44] Speaker A: Side. Yeah. I put Zayas as my knighthood award and that did. That's. That has not paid off. No. And not. Not even slightly. He looks really good. How's Canyon look? Big. How do you feel about Canyon as the knighthood award? [00:42:59] Speaker B: I think he's. He hasn't been great, but he's. I will say this. He's been the worst part of Gen G. So that's looking good at least. [00:43:11] Speaker A: All right, fair enough. By the way, on the. Please bench the Kench award, AKA the don't make this channel popular. In my solo queue, I did pick Anivia, shout out G2 and caps and also I think Shout Out Bickle wasn't a Bickle that predicted last week. [00:43:23] Speaker B: I did call out that it would be caps playing that exact champion. [00:43:26] Speaker A: I remember when he locked it in in game, I was like, my prediction. I was like, wait. But somebody else had an even better prediction that they called it. So shout out to both of us then. All right, cool. Well, we're split on the cast for Fly Quest G2. But up next is Gen G versus Top Esports, and we are not split. We all think Gen G takes this. I have a 2 0, pickle has a 2 0. Badger has a 2. One for Gen G. So you think it's a little closer. [00:43:50] Speaker C: That means congratulations to Top Esports for making God. [00:43:55] Speaker A: Could you imagine. I do want to say beating Gen G to make it, I think. [00:44:00] Speaker B: I think Top Esports pulls the KT from last year, I think goes into. [00:44:06] Speaker C: The 2.0and then immediately just falls out. Yeah. [00:44:10] Speaker B: Goes 10, 20 into not even making knockouts. [00:44:14] Speaker C: You know, that actually kind of makes sense. [00:44:16] Speaker A: 212-223. [00:44:19] Speaker C: Yeah, I can respect that, honestly. [00:44:23] Speaker A: Well, let's look at, like, the team. So if. If they lose this, if Top Esports lose this, they would play like blg. If. If we're just going based on, like, expected results for the next round, they would be like blg either mcoid, tsw. Because I think that one's a more 50. 50 or like t1. Yeah, that's actually tough. Like blg or t1 are gonna be tough opponents to pull there so easily. Could happen. We'll see. But we all think Gen G takes it. Then it's HLE CFO to round out the 2 one. I have faith in CFO. Badger agrees. [00:44:55] Speaker C: I was supposed to come in here as the CFO believer, not saying that they were gonna knock off Hana and you stole my Thunder. [00:45:02] Speaker A: They smacked T1. They made it close versus Al. I think there's a world that they could have been a 30 team to start off their worlds and been waiting in knockouts already. And I don't know if Hanwa can deal with it. Zayas as well. I know he is great player and I was, I think already early on I can say I was wrong about him being the most overhyped. But he's got two top laners to deal with. Remember, CFO have driver and rest, so they can utilize that to kind of nullify HLE's strong point and shut down Zayas and what he's able to do. So I think the CFO is uniquely equipped to deal with HLE and can take them down in the prolonged series. But I think actually get a game like I probably game one. I think it's gonna be a reverse sweep from CFO actually. But Pickle, you have HLE2 1. You give one game to CFO. How do you think it goes? [00:45:52] Speaker B: I didn't think it was gonna be the spicy pick, but apparently with YouTube really riding high on CFO, I think this is gonna be a great series. I think this is. Yeah, this is the best series in round four in my opinion. This is going to be the most exciting gameplay. These are two phenomenal teams that have just been playing so well. Doggo has been on a whole new level, But Viper is top 280 carry in the world. He's Viper for a reason. And I'm just really excited to see how this entire match it plays out. I just think Hanma life is the better team even with CFO playing on such a high level. [00:46:30] Speaker A: But what's Hano life? What's all that skill? What's all that, oh, we're the best team gonna look like when they enter. The ring bell goes ding, ding, ding. And CFO just immediately start throwing haymakers. [00:46:43] Speaker B: Everyone's gonna plan until you get punched in the mouth, bro. [00:46:46] Speaker A: Exactly right. Once you get punched in the mouth and they're gonna. [00:46:49] Speaker C: They're gonna take. They're gonna take Hanwha, the. The slow team, like the slowest playing team at worlds and bring them down to their level and be like, all right, all gas, no breaks. [00:47:03] Speaker A: Here we go. Yep. And yeah, again, I think that cfo, I'm giving them a lot of respect. I think they can take it. But I agree with you, Bickle. This is going to be, I think the closest of the series in terms of like the. The top level play, like the metric of close and good gameplay. This is going to be the peak. I'm very excited for G2Fly, but I don't think the gameplay is going to be at the same level as hle cfo. But I think that's the other one that's like really exciting for me, obviously. [00:47:31] Speaker B: And we will find out in about four hours. [00:47:34] Speaker C: We will actually find out four hours. [00:47:36] Speaker A: We'll actually find out very soon because that's one of the the matches happening tonight. And I'll talk about the one twos. Get through these quick here before we wrap up the episode. It's going to be BLG versus vks. We all have blg. Bickle has a game to vks that's actually surprising. I've not been that impressed by vks. They've only defeated PSG who were looking really. [00:47:56] Speaker C: PSG actually was the worst group. It was the worst team in Swiss stage, if we're being 110 honest. [00:48:02] Speaker A: So why do you have V guys getting a game? Do you just really disrespect BLG? Right. [00:48:06] Speaker B: I think BLG's been playing absolutely atrocious and. [00:48:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:48:10] Speaker B: Personally, I think PSG did better than fnatic. [00:48:14] Speaker A: Okay. All right, fair enough. Well, either way, we also think Fanatic. [00:48:18] Speaker B: Was the worst team. [00:48:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, I could see that. I. [00:48:22] Speaker C: Well, okay, looking at the team stats, yeah, it's pretty bad. [00:48:26] Speaker A: I still think it's psg, but I think they're both very comparably bad. That being said, they're still both better than a lot of the other teams in the region. So I don't want to like disrespect them too much. [00:48:34] Speaker C: So can I. Can I do a stat just in a quick deep dive that I did? Fnatic in their five games has a 0.53 kill to death ratio. That's bad. PSG had a 0.56. 100 Thieves had a 0.63. [00:48:53] Speaker A: Oh, no. [00:48:54] Speaker C: And you want to know who's in the fourth from the bottom? It's Billy. [00:48:59] Speaker A: Billy. [00:49:02] Speaker C: 0.67. My. [00:49:05] Speaker B: My defensive PSG versus Fnatic is. PSG at least had to play Gen G and Hanma Life, whereas Fanatic FNATIC had to play a cfo, which is a good team, obviously. But they got blg, who has looked atrocious and then they got to play mcoh. [00:49:26] Speaker C: Yep. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Huh. Yeah. And they got team shot by mco, which is a bummer. Speaking of, mcoid versus team secret whales is the next one at 1 2. And this one, again, I think is going to be close. We have a split cast here. Me and Badger think it's Team Secret Whales, but I have a 2:1. Badger is a 2:0 Bigel. You got a 2:1 for M. Koi. Honestly, I'm not gonna lie. Flip a coin. That. That's. That's where I'm at with these two teams is like, yeah, I don't think either of them is making it into knockouts. I don't think this matters at all. I think this only matters for teams like fly G2. Whoever loses that series, probably Top Esports is going to be paying attention. And then whoever went or whoever loses CFO versus HLE. Like, the losers of the 2:1 round are going to be looking at this one being like, we want this. Whoever wins this round, that's who we want to face. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Our big Secret Whales fans. Fly Quest are big MKOI fans. [00:50:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I could see that. I mean, G2, I think, are also big McCoy fans. Like, I think they're. [00:50:25] Speaker B: They can't play MCOI again. They already played them. [00:50:28] Speaker A: Oh, you're. [00:50:29] Speaker B: Oh, that's why Fly Quest can't play Secret rails again. G2 can't play McCoy again. [00:50:35] Speaker A: Oh, good point. Good point right there. Okay, cool. Well, that does change it slightly in terms of what happens early on, because. [00:50:43] Speaker B: This is a really minor thing tonight. But if G2 loses and MKOI wins, they have a 5050 shot of drawing T1. [00:50:54] Speaker A: Well, that's if T1 wins. So let's look at predictions. Oh, yeah, we all have T1. [00:51:00] Speaker C: Two. [00:51:00] Speaker A: O's from Andrew and Bickle, two one from me. So there is a 5050 shot. Then the G2 could pull them. That. I mean, if it's. It's not worlds if we don't get G2 versus T1 at least once. [00:51:10] Speaker C: Right. [00:51:10] Speaker A: Like, come on, it's gotta happen. [00:51:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:13] Speaker B: We need to see if FlyQuest get into top eight by beating Gen, by beating G2. And having beaten no Eastern teams into G2 being knocked out by T1 in the 3:2 matchup, I think Europe is gonna explain explode. [00:51:28] Speaker A: Okay, but look at the rest of G2's run. They had Top esports. Sure, that can be a little tough. But then McCoy, they beat BLG, then fly quest. Like, I don't think you can argue that they had an unlucky draw. This world, they have had worlds in the past. Last year Especially where like it was bad, bad luck draw. But this time they got to team Kill and they got to go up against na. If they lose to na, I don't think they can complain. [00:51:55] Speaker B: That's. I do think their ability to complain between the draws. [00:52:04] Speaker A: But they're still going to. It's eu. You know, what are we. Yeah, who are we kidding? [00:52:08] Speaker C: Can I give a shout out to Upset for using Rift Herald to save his KDA when his team fought and died over it and he was like, well, I'm the lucky recipient of it. And then he. He uses Rift Herald to get out of a dive on top lane. [00:52:23] Speaker B: Why did Fnatic keep picking Ezreal into tanks? [00:52:29] Speaker A: Okay, I saw something very mean posted on Twitter. I don't know the answer to that question, Pickle, first of all, but I saw something very mean post on Twitter that showed upset stats in 2017 of like number of world's appearances. [00:52:43] Speaker C: I just saw that tweet. [00:52:46] Speaker A: All these things and it was like 000-000-000 and then like one like LEC playoffs or something and then it showed upset set 2025. It's almost the exact same but it's just stats are higher. Like he's got more playoffs than eu. [00:52:59] Speaker B: I've seen that exact graphic, but I think I've also seen a line on it which is 10th place finishes. Yo, he's finished 10th place like four times. [00:53:10] Speaker A: That's actually crazy. [00:53:12] Speaker B: He. [00:53:12] Speaker A: But he's still sometimes so good. [00:53:16] Speaker B: Fanatics blowing up that damn roster. [00:53:19] Speaker A: 100. Like isn't grabs already gone? [00:53:23] Speaker B: No grabs. I think they said they're bringing back for another year. [00:53:25] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [00:53:27] Speaker C: He said he was gone over under. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Three and a half statements how the year went. [00:53:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I could imagine that for sure. They got to do something. But hey, they got an off season to do it now because they. Their Worlds run ended quickly just because we didn't mention it. The teams confirmed gone from Worlds are Fnatic and PSG. Both of them are the ones that bombed out 03. Congratulations to KT and Al for going 3. 0. We're gonna have many more teams over the next couple of days qualify in and then we'll get into the top five. Quarterfinals will begin Tuesday, October 28th at midnight. So that's essentially Monday, then Monday night midnight for Pacific time. If you're over on the east coast. Sorry, it's gonna be like a 3am start time for you. That's really tough. But yeah, quarterfinals are right around the corner in about a week's time from when we're recording this, but we do have more Swiss stage before then. Should be able to get one episode in, hopefully between Swiss stage and the knockout stage. We'll have that Monday to record, maybe even Sunday, if we can get everybody together. Sometimes it's tougher on a weekend, but. But hopefully we can get one more episode out going into the knockout stage so we can wrap up Swiss. But for now, at least this was a halfway check in point. Yeah. Anything else that we missed, guys? I feel like that was everything that I had prepped like that. We. We covered our predictions, we covered the big stories. Anything though that you feel like we missed before we close out? Going once. I think we're going twice. Perfect. Love to hear it. [00:54:57] Speaker C: Got nothing. [00:54:58] Speaker A: Well, all that means then is. Hey, Badger, if people wanted to leave a number of stars for a review for this podcast episode, how many do you think they should leave? [00:55:08] Speaker C: I believe they should leave as many games as psg, Talon and Fnatic played at Worlds before getting sent home. And that's five. [00:55:18] Speaker A: Is that five? Did they both play? [00:55:21] Speaker B: No. [00:55:22] Speaker A: Three games? [00:55:23] Speaker B: It's four. [00:55:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I was gonna say, like. [00:55:25] Speaker B: No, it's five. Never mind. Ignore me because. 010112. [00:55:30] Speaker C: Yep. [00:55:31] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Okay, Fair enough. [00:55:33] Speaker C: Yeah, Trust me. I read. I read the. I went through the games of Legends. [00:55:37] Speaker A: I just want to make sure we're not telling people to give us a four star review again because that is careful. [00:55:40] Speaker B: Last time I did something, they gave us a two star review. [00:55:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we can't have our reviews tank. [00:55:45] Speaker B: That's my bad. [00:55:47] Speaker A: No, no, it's okay. And thank you two for being on for another week. Hopefully we can have you back out for next week along with some more people on the podcast world. Scheduling is crazy though, around this time of year, so it can be difficult to get everybody together. But thanks for sticking along with us, everybody for another week and another podcast episode world season, it comes by too slow and then it's over too fast. So enjoy it while it lasts. But also remember this. We love you and we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye, everybody. [00:56:16] Speaker B: Peace. [00:56:17] Speaker C: Bye. [00:56:21] Speaker A: It Sam.