League Rundown - Episode 549: Mustache bets and minor regions

[00:00:12] Speaker A: Gets hit. Kimmy kids a little too far here. He's gonna have to try and get himself out. Let me go. Tillery and the rest of the shots of fire. Zion is just killing the next Zion can eat it single handedly win the game by game by game by game by should be. [00:00:27] Speaker B: Oh my God. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Stupid passes through and manages to the table with Messiah tanking it up. I do not believe he just believe. I cannot understand this game. Unicorns of love. It wasn't a mutant. The Nexus hello and welcome to episode 549 of the League Rundown. This is your 2025 LTA and LEC playoffs round one review. And this episode is lovely entitled Mustache Bets and Minor regions. I am Kangas, your host. I'm joined by three esteemed co hosts. Up first we got returning again Bickle. [00:01:28] Speaker B: Sorry I've been out for so long. I've been celebrating my meat sports championship. My birds are finally super bowl champions. [00:01:36] Speaker A: Hey, meat sports, you love to hear it. I didn't know you were a birds guy. [00:01:40] Speaker B: Yeah, go Eagles. [00:01:42] Speaker A: All right, well maybe you can give us some bird facts later on because our resident bird expert Hawk will not be with us today. But we do have joining us today, fresh out of the can, Badger. [00:01:52] Speaker C: I. I was trying to remember what the Philadelphia mayor did leading into this. What is it? EG lses or something like that. Terrible rendition. [00:02:02] Speaker B: People from Philadelphia may not be able to spell, but they're passionate. [00:02:07] Speaker A: It's about the effort, you know, not the effort. [00:02:08] Speaker C: She tried her best. Okay. [00:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And then also rounding out the cast today we have the Mr. Mazelpl. [00:02:17] Speaker D: Hello. I'm excited to talk about the wonderful games we got to watch. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Oh, were you watching those games? [00:02:25] Speaker D: It's kind of like. I watched them. It's wild. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Mizel, there were wonderful games this weekend. Can you tell me where? I didn't see any. [00:02:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, maybe it wasn't the leagues that we're going to talk about, was it lpl? Is that where the wonderful games are? [00:02:36] Speaker D: Unfortunately, nope. [00:02:37] Speaker A: No. [00:02:38] Speaker D: Oh no. [00:02:41] Speaker A: I was hoping that that could be the saving grace here for us. Because if you were able to watch any of the LTA or LEC games this past weekend. A couple. A lot of stops, a lot of very one sided games. We had almost sweeps across the board. And notably in the lta, one of the two conferences had a total domination over the other. And it might be exactly the one that you expected. But before we get into all that, we got some global news. We have some fun roster stuff shaken here in the lta. If you heard of Las Ratones or have you heard of. I don't know, whatever Dom's team's doing. There's also now a content creator team here in North America. That is right. The unretired. Now, for the second time, Doublelift is making a team for the NACL open qualifiers, which, in case you're not aware of what those are, it's basically open qualifiers for three spots in the Relegation Tier 2 league. NaCl is a relegation league where you can get kicked out. You can also promote up to the LTA now through it. And Doublelift is trying to qualify into that league with a new team, including himself. TF Blade in the top lane, Spica in the jungle, Pobelter Mid, and then Biofrost support. A lot of people have been talking about this. I think it's pretty cool. Mazel. I want to get your thoughts on it first because I know that you were also watching some of their publicized scrims that they had or not publicized, but public scrims that were happening this past week. [00:04:09] Speaker D: Dude. Okay, well, I'm gonna have two reactions here. First one, Hell, yeah. Let's go. We got. We got actual big names in our community to make something happen in Nates, not just Lec, I guess. Have this fun. I was so, so damn excited when I heard that this was happening. After watching the scrims, I'm not as excited. And unfortunately, the team does not look great. But there's time to grow. [00:04:37] Speaker C: They're trying their best. [00:04:42] Speaker A: Unfortunately. Yes, that did seem like they were trying their best and they were struggling a lot. I think a couple players in particular, I think that Pope Belter and Speaker were actually doing better, but, like, biofrost and Doublelift were just losing rough lanes. [00:04:56] Speaker D: Doublelift, Biofrost just hadn't touched the game in a long time. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Yeah, Idea Blade was kind of like feast or famine. Like, he had one or two games that he popped off, but then the others, he just got completely bodied. So really still cool. Yeah. TF freaking Blade. [00:05:14] Speaker B: Of all your choices, it's him. [00:05:18] Speaker A: Look, I don't know. I guess Tenacity already got picked up by another team. That's probably why. Otherwise I could have gone. [00:05:22] Speaker D: He's playing in the. In the OQs. [00:05:24] Speaker A: He's playing. No, he's on pulse. [00:05:26] Speaker D: Right? [00:05:26] Speaker A: Tenacity. [00:05:27] Speaker B: He's on pulse. [00:05:27] Speaker C: Yeah, he's on pulse. [00:05:29] Speaker D: We were just talking about the OQ. Sorry, that meant NaCl. [00:05:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:05:33] Speaker B: I think Dokla needs a team. [00:05:36] Speaker D: He was. Yeah, he was on A team. But, yeah, now you know. [00:05:40] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:05:42] Speaker B: That team exploded. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Unfortunate. There was a new team coming in for OQs that was gonna try and win it out, and unfortunately, that had what, like, for the other notable players. [00:05:54] Speaker B: Dokla, Ken V, Bradley, Meech, and Bruce. [00:05:58] Speaker C: God, that's such a powerful roster. [00:06:00] Speaker A: Like, all those players have had nods for LCs, if not, like, starting positions in LCs. That's. [00:06:06] Speaker D: Yep. [00:06:07] Speaker A: Wow. [00:06:08] Speaker D: But back to the original point, it's like, I'm hoping for good things. I mean, I think if nothing else comes of it, it's cool to get some more eyes on NA OQs, right. I mean, it's gonna make people watch, so I'm happy for it. It sucks that they aren't, like, super great like Lorton, but it's still something. It's content out of na and we haven't had. Like, if you think back, when was the last time a professional player, like, actually made content like this with where it's like, big eyes on na, Right. Like, it's. It's either never happened or it hasn't happened a long time. [00:06:42] Speaker A: Delta fox in, like, 2016. [00:06:44] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:06:45] Speaker A: Challengers League, I think. Yeah. [00:06:47] Speaker D: It's just so crazy, man, when you think, like, none of the pros have done much for our community, like, to. To like, boost eyes or anything. So it's nice to finally see that. [00:06:57] Speaker A: I. I agree. I think it's going to be good to get eyes, make sure to check out their games in the OQs. Do you happen to remember what the weekend is, Mizell? Last weekend of the month. [00:07:07] Speaker D: The last weekend of this month going into the first two weeks of next month. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Okay. So, yeah, I guess this weekend is like, Friday's the 28th. [00:07:14] Speaker D: You have to have signed up by the 21st. [00:07:17] Speaker A: There we go. Oh, yeah. [00:07:18] Speaker D: True. [00:07:18] Speaker A: You have a couple days to sign up, but you could sign up. Anybody listening to this? [00:07:22] Speaker D: Anybody could. [00:07:23] Speaker A: And then go compete against Doublelift. That'd be kind of funny. They are, in fact, open qualifiers. What's everyone else's thoughts? So, Badger, are you excited to see Doublelift back in competitive league? [00:07:33] Speaker C: Yeah, sure. [00:07:37] Speaker A: Well, that was a very divid. [00:07:38] Speaker C: Yeah, let's go with that. [00:07:40] Speaker D: If only he could have gotten Bjergsen. [00:07:42] Speaker C: If only he. [00:07:42] Speaker A: I was gonna say that's the answer of somebody who thinks Bjergsen's the NA go. That's what that. Yeah. Was right there. Big one of your thoughts. [00:07:52] Speaker B: It's interesting. [00:07:55] Speaker A: Wow. A lot of very, like, tepid responses. So I think that it's it's been a little polar in terms of if people are excited about this or don't care about this. I haven't really heard anybody, maybe like a few randoms on Twitter that were like, oh, this is bad because, like, they're not bringing on new, like younger players or whatever, but it's like, ah, who cares? Like that's they're bringing viewership. But yeah, it kind of has been mostly like either people are excited because it's going to bring in viewership, or they just don't care because it's like these players have been washed for a while. Competitive. [00:08:31] Speaker D: But I think the thing is about Los Raton is, is they just have a lot of very famous people, whereas I think this team there are. They're decently famous. But are they the same level of fame as a lot of the people on Lortons? I don't know. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Not. Not even close. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Double is like the only one that has a chance. But even then Los Ratons has reckless. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Right, Exactly. And like just the difference in those alone. But that is one of the biggest news pieces this past week. It's been slow at the start of the year, which honestly can be good for us that it is slow. Otherwise, other, you know, some news things I've seen, viewership was actually not that bad for the LTA, all things considered. The loud versus I think it was loud, C9 match was the one that peaked. And I don't remember exactly what the viewership was, but I remember being like, that's pretty good that we hit those types of numbers again. Now we'll see if that continues going into next weekend once we no longer have the Brazilian teams kind of boosting that viewership numbers. I imagine some of the Brazil crowd will not continue watching, but that was cool to see. Otherwise, other updates around the globe. Mazel. Catch us up on lpl. What's been happening over there? [00:09:46] Speaker D: Yeah, so we are in a little break right now because we're getting ready for playoffs, but playoffs is on the horizon. We have two setups, one of the lower bracket, one upper bracket. And the biggest thing is that we have all of our teams set in stone now. So we will be seeing. And we have our matchups as well. We did a draft right after the last game to give our matchups. So the biggest matchups, all the matchups starting at the top. In our double Elim section, it's TT versus jdg, which I just found a clip of TT that I posted on Twitter the other day where these same players were playing for TT like three years ago and to see how far they've come and how dominant they were. They literally destroyed BLG in their series in their last game of the split to get the first seed in their group. And BLG is now one life in playoffs. But at first it's TT jdg, then it's Nip al, which is going to be an absolute banger. A lot of big names between those two teams. Then in the losers bracket with one life, one chance, we only get to see these teams go all the way if they play five best of fives in a row. That's BLG versus Weibo. So one of those two teams will not be in contention any longer. And then it's Top Esports and ig. The biggest names are in the lower bracket for the LPL sp. [00:11:18] Speaker C: You know, this is so funny because last year when they were. Remember when TSM was looking to buy the LPL spot and I'm just like, yeah. And I basically was like get ready to learn anyone's legends like, like TSM fans because I thought that was the team that was going to sell. And now they're Top seat. They're. [00:11:36] Speaker D: They're one of. All they did was go get Flandre and Tarzan and now they're. Yeah. [00:11:40] Speaker C: I mean like Hope still like a. A notable name. [00:11:44] Speaker D: He's been one of the best. [00:11:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Shanks and Hope are big names. Kale coming over from Korea like just. It's just wild. [00:11:53] Speaker B: How about the story that is the return of doing B and Nip. [00:11:58] Speaker C: I missed. [00:11:59] Speaker D: He's been tearing it up too. [00:12:02] Speaker A: I still. Every time I play Malphite, play the doin B skin. That's the best one. Also. I just want to a shout out. There's a chance we get TT versus Nip in the upper. [00:12:15] Speaker D: In the upper bracket finals. [00:12:17] Speaker C: The table matchup. [00:12:20] Speaker A: Matchup. I'm. [00:12:21] Speaker D: I'll be watching back in here for. [00:12:23] Speaker A: That if it does happen. [00:12:23] Speaker D: Seriously though, the. The stories have been really fun. I think there's been a lot of newer players that have been performing really, really well and it's been really fun to see a lot of the like differences this year, especially with some of the big name teams changing players over and stuff and that it doesn't just feel like BLG is going to sweep their way through the series and make it to first stand. So please, please, please tune in. It starts back up again on the 22nd with those last life matches between BLG, Weibo and Top Esports and IG. [00:12:56] Speaker A: Oh, it starts with the lower bracket elimination. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, they. [00:13:01] Speaker C: They just. They just go for the throat. I love it. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Oh, no, they start. [00:13:06] Speaker D: If you think that's spicy as well. There's even more SP game one side select. So we've been doing 1v1s for all of our game side select. Now game one is decided by a coin flip. Game five is decided by a 1v1. So we will be taking a pause of the series between game 4 and game 5. Having a 1v1 for side selection and then going into the silver scrapes game. [00:13:30] Speaker C: You know, I thought blind pick was always the best format for game five. No, this tops it. This tops it. Having. Having it just be all one v one for side selecting. Game five is nuts. [00:13:43] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Especially that means there's going to be 50 champions banned going into that. [00:13:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:50] Speaker B: Honestly, the east in general is just chaotic right now. [00:13:54] Speaker C: Oh my gosh. Yeah. Korea is going insane as well. [00:13:57] Speaker B: What you mean? [00:13:58] Speaker A: Perfect segue. Let's talk about lck. What's the update happening over there? [00:14:02] Speaker C: So has officially been eliminated from I heard that contention or first stand or whatever. [00:14:09] Speaker D: The Riot budget cuts. They. They cut the guy that gave them all the percentage. [00:14:13] Speaker A: I mean Badger. [00:14:14] Speaker B: It's the top four everyone expected. It's DA1, HanweLife, Genji and Nongshim Nog Shin. [00:14:23] Speaker A: Who the hell is Nongshim? [00:14:24] Speaker C: Nagshim Red Force. [00:14:26] Speaker A: So who's on the roster? [00:14:28] Speaker C: King and Gideon Fisher, Jaiwu and Lehends. [00:14:33] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Okay. [00:14:34] Speaker C: So not a bad roster. And they beat kt which is perfect. Cuz bdd, Duck, Dom and Way like so not like people to scoff at. And then I mean of course they got picked by Dom1 in the second round and immediately just got knocked down to lowers where they have to play Gen G for their tournament lives. Who just came off of a five game set against Hana. So we get Hanw D in the upper bracket and then lower bracket to figure it out is Nong Shim versus Gen G. T1's been eliminated. KT's been eliminated. I mean DNF did not even finish the play in stage. So we're good on that front. And it'll be interesting to see how this works out because I mean I. Genji being lower bracket is kind of a wild thing to think about because D plus and Hanwha could easily just go to first strike. But then you just can't discount Gen G making it as well. [00:15:42] Speaker A: I was gonna ask, who do you think is favored? Like. Like the favorite from the Dom one Did not. [00:15:47] Speaker C: DAM one still has not lost a series this. This year. Like okay, they are five and oh, and well, actually they're six zero in series technically, if we count the playoffs went five and oh, in groups and then they won three one over. [00:16:01] Speaker B: Non was on a bit of a tear though. They've. [00:16:05] Speaker C: They just got momentum though. [00:16:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Han was got tele momentum. They went to five games against T1 and beat them. They went to five games against Gen G and beat them and now they're about to play dk. That's a hell of a run. [00:16:18] Speaker A: That's a gauntlet right there of like the big orgs. [00:16:22] Speaker D: Dude, that Ruler Viper face off was. [00:16:25] Speaker C: It's exactly what you want from this. [00:16:29] Speaker B: And the fact that it's fearless. [00:16:33] Speaker D: Is that the one that the Viper came out on top. [00:16:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I remember the people talking about that. I didn't watch that series. But the five game series where things got real wacky in the draft because of how many champions were banned. [00:16:45] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [00:16:45] Speaker A: Do we think it was quality? Like was it fun or. Or did it make you sour? [00:16:49] Speaker D: Game five sucked, but. [00:16:51] Speaker B: Oh, game five was awful. [00:16:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:53] Speaker A: Okay. [00:16:53] Speaker B: Yeah, Game five was peak chovy. Trying to carry Gen G. [00:16:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:59] Speaker A: All right, well, I'll have to go back and re. Watch that because I've heard enough people talk about it at this point that I'm like, okay, fine, I. I just need to experience it myself, make my own opinions on it, but. Cool. All right, so it sounds like competition is still stiff in the lck. We have yet to see how things look in playoffs for LPL, but make sure to tune in on the 22nd at LPL. English on Twitch. Right, Miselle? [00:17:22] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:17:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Shout out to Mizel, Kelsey Moser, everybody over on that team who's making the unofficial broadcast work for the English audience. [00:17:32] Speaker B: And while the LCK is starting up, I mean, well, the LPL is starting up. The LCK is finishing up. They finished their playoffs on the 23rd. [00:17:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:39] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:17:40] Speaker B: Yep. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Like right after LPL starts, the LTA. [00:17:44] Speaker C: Isn'T until like middle of March, if I remember correctly. [00:17:48] Speaker B: The LTA, LCK and LCP all finish on the 23rd. [00:17:54] Speaker A: Wow. [00:17:54] Speaker B: Because they're all down to their final four teams already, huh? [00:17:58] Speaker A: Funny how scheduling works. But you know what? I guess we'll just figure out other stuff to talk about. Bless LEC for at least giving us one more weekend of content right there. But speaking of content, thank you everybody for supporting us and helping us put out content every week. Shout out to everyone who supports on Patreon Also, shout out to everybody in the community Discord. If you want to join, you can find a link in the description wherever you are listening to the podcast and you can also support us through our merch store league rundown shop.fourthwall.com if you enjoy the content, buy something on there. It helps us pay our audio editor as well as do some fun events in the off seasons. Which, who knows, maybe we'll actually have something that we have to do this coming off season if we have too much time between, you know, LEC ending and then first stand. [00:18:48] Speaker B: I mean, I think it's the perfect time for us to become a Barry Manilow podcast. [00:18:52] Speaker A: I think so. You know what, Bickle? I'm happy you referenced that and people can get the full context and the bullshittery when it comes out. But Barry Manilow, Hell of a guy, everyone. Favorite Barry Manilow song. We can all agree it's. It's Mandy, right? [00:19:08] Speaker D: Sure, yeah. Whatever your heart desires. [00:19:11] Speaker A: Well, that was a. That was a bait because it's actually I write the songs and somebody was supposed to correct me and nobody did. So that's an indictment on all of you. All right, let's talk about Barry Manilow League of Legends. How about that? LTA happened this weekend. LEC also did, but we're going to start with lta. That's right, the League of the Americas this time, the Official Americas. We had both conferences fighting each other in Sao Paulo, Brazil, as the top four teams from the north flew down there. And oh boy, did they make it eventful for that home crowd because we had all matches for north versus south teams. We've talked about it on past episodes that things actually went not as expected in the south because the two LLA teams that were playing in there actually took first and second seed, while two of the Brazilian teams took third and fourth, which meant that we had Hundred Thieves, our surprise first seed versus Pain, the Brazilian fourth seed, then Flyquez versus Levyaton, Team Liquid versus Isiris Estrall, or as we called them, Istral. Just kind of combining those names together. It was two orgs that combined into one. And then C9 versus loud and mezel. What happened? Just kind of as a general rule across all four series. Any. Any trends? [00:20:29] Speaker D: Well, you know, games happen. They absolutely have things. [00:20:34] Speaker A: That's a friend. [00:20:35] Speaker D: There was League of Legends that was played at a certain level. [00:20:39] Speaker A: I remember most of it, actually. [00:20:43] Speaker D: I mean, if you're an LTA north fan, it was a good weekend. I'd say there's still a Lot of things that LTA north fans will be a little bit upset or maybe looking for going forward, but it was an absolute slaughter of LTA south, and it feels bad for the region as a whole. I'm not going to mince words in that regard. Like, I think this was the worst possible outcome that LTA could have possibly had for their first split. But as an LTA north fan, I'm feeling good, man. I'm feeling good. [00:21:15] Speaker A: It feels good for the north fans because, like, oh, we. We are better. Like, our fourth seed is better than their first seed. And. And for a while, we've had that conversation of, like, how would the worst LCS team do against, like, the best LLA team or the best Brazilian team? It wasn't at that close. This wasn't like, disguised or, like, shop for rebellion or anybody going against them, but it was still proving that there is a gap. And, man, you're right, it hurts. It feels bad for the south teams because we got shoehorned into this new, you know, region where now north and south are combined. We're one region fighting for international spots, and after the first weekend of playoffs, they don't have any shot of getting the team into first stand. Feels kind of bad. I want to get everyone's thoughts on that just from, like, a vibes perspective before we get into the games themselves. Badger, let's start with you. What were the vibes for you as a longtime LCS fan, somebody who's followed the region for a while through the rebrand and now seeing that, like, this is what it kind of built up to the big hype inter regional play. [00:22:21] Speaker C: You know, I. We really never had anything like this because when we talk about, like, rivals with North America, we always talk about, like, the EUNA rivals. Like that. I mean, lla, LLA and cb, lol, were like the Rift Rivals version of themselves, like the Rift Rivals going into it. So it was like, oh, this is the first time. This is the first chance that they really have to step up and say, hey, we belong. Like, we can do this. And not to bury the lead on this, but we. We might have to wait a little bit. We know we, in fact have to wait a little bit longer for this to actually come to fruition again for the south to get the chance to throw punches at the north, because. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Yeah, it won't be a little summer. [00:23:06] Speaker C: Yeah, it's gonna be a while. Oh, boy. [00:23:10] Speaker A: For spring, we have our own conference. [00:23:11] Speaker D: We did it in spring, right? [00:23:13] Speaker A: No, in spring, there's no Interconference 1 team going to MSI. We won't fight each other until worlds when we get to see the third seed. Both regions get one guaranteed team, but then the third seed is going to be fought between the rest. [00:23:26] Speaker D: And for msi, it's each gets one, each gets one. [00:23:29] Speaker A: Yep. So we're not even going to like fight each other for anything. We're just going to have our own playoffs in our own regions or conferences. Sorry again. I keep using region as the term. Technically we are one region. There are two conferences. So the north conference will have its own playoffs. The South Conference will have its own playoffs. I'm trying to get better at like being consistent with the verbiage, but it's tough when you just, you've always said region for, for the entire time. Bickle. Let's, let's get your thoughts out. Just vibes wise, like how did it feel watching and knowing that like, yep, this was the merger. [00:23:58] Speaker B: It's just, it's just sad. In all honesty, I think you were dead on that this is the worst possible outcome that could have come out of this. [00:24:09] Speaker C: It's like, well, I mean the worst. [00:24:12] Speaker B: North fans aren't happy because they're like we're losing international spots to this and south fans are like, well, this is what we have now. [00:24:21] Speaker D: Like, yeah, I don't think anybody spied on both sides of the ball. [00:24:24] Speaker A: Right. [00:24:24] Speaker D: It's just be like you took our region away from us, now we get no chance or what? What. Why did you combine us? We were perfectly fine on our own. Things like that. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's, it's a lose, lose situation. Which is why if you've been paying attention to Reddit, if you've been paying attention to social media. I have not been. I've been just ignoring it, avoiding it. I don't find it's conducive to my job to see the negativity. I'm trying to focus on, you know, how to put on a good show. But I have heard from other people that are following. It is pretty hostile out there. The general sentiment online is not happy with, with the results of things. So bummer to say, but at least we can talk about the games themselves. What I was trying to do the weekend is hype up that this is. Even if it's a forced rivalry, hey, it's a new rivalry. How are the south teams going to do? I bet my mustache I said at least one south team is making it through and I was wrong. I gotta shave my mustache on broadcast. That's sad. Yeah. Bye. Bye. The Kangastache, which by. Okay, everyone, real quick. Is it a bra mustache, or am I Dr. Eggman? What are. What are thoughts? [00:25:35] Speaker D: You're Dr. Eggman. [00:25:36] Speaker A: Yeah, a little bit. [00:25:37] Speaker D: Or Mr. Robotnika. It's formal. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Mr. Robotnik was my father, actually. So, Badger. I think I already heard you say Eggman earlier. Bickle. [00:25:47] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:25:48] Speaker A: Is there any chance. Am I Badger? A little bit. Am I Brahm? Am I Eggman? [00:25:53] Speaker B: You're Dr. Egg Braum. [00:25:55] Speaker A: Okay. You know, what a blend. [00:25:57] Speaker D: You know, I had a conversation with Rafa the other day. We were talking about your facial hair. And while, like, if you think about it, the facial hair you have on right now, on any other person would look like absolute garbage, but on you, it's like middle of the pack average, which I think is a dub, honestly, to make that work. So I'm proud of you. [00:26:23] Speaker A: All right, we're gonna have to get into that a little more later, but for now, let's talk about. [00:26:26] Speaker D: I like it. I like. I think it's good. You make it look good. [00:26:30] Speaker A: Well, thank you. The only reason. Thank you. It's all about confidence. It's about how you carry yourself. Right? Oh, boy. All right, well, let's start where the weekend started. 100 Thieves versus Pain. And I'll pretty much all of these were two O's. We'll talk about that as well. With LEC. Only one of the series was close, but 100 Thieves versus Pain kicked us off. I'm gonna throw it over to Bickle to start us off here. Hundred Thieves. They did clutch it out. They looked pretty good doing it. What were your kind of takeaways from how 100 Thieves looked? Being the first seed, representing the north as like, basically our best team, if you want to put it that way. They did take first seed. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Props to them. They won. And in the end, it was pretty convincing. They didn't look like the first seed. When you compared their performances to some other people. There had some iffy moments here and there. I will say it was fun seeing a little bit of banter from Teton and Sniper going back and forth, trying to build up a rivalry a little bit, giving them shots back and forth, but in the end, it. It wasn't close. [00:27:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. Other than, hey, Titan did get a solo kill on Sniper. That was fun. [00:27:43] Speaker D: He did. [00:27:44] Speaker A: Sniper might have missed two in Tovo strikes on him. [00:27:48] Speaker C: My favorite thing in all of that was when they were running the package. That Robo is like, I want to kill. I. I wanna. All Right when they were talking about it's like I really want a solo kill sniper. Like first blood was happening in the picture in picture like they were running him down with like Teton is talking. [00:28:08] Speaker B: Twice then it cleanse then gets run down. [00:28:16] Speaker A: You know sometimes, sometimes this is a phrase that we use in broadcasting. It's better to be lucky than to be good. Sometimes you're just lucky and those types of moments happen. You can't plan that in broadcasting but sometimes they happen all the same. Yeah, Game one it was overall drafting wasn't like that wild for either of the teams other than we're still seeing Pantheon support be a premier pick and Zyra Jungle has been picking up more and more steam as the split wins went on. But nothing like crazy other than that. And yeah it really was just domination from 100 thieves. There wasn't like a lot of fight shown from Pain Gaming which is a bummer because this was like the the longest running roster globally that's been together really, really cool to see from them. Like Teton as well just being a really historical player in the region. He had like he was leading the their league for most kills and most deaths which is just a very funny stat for an ad carry to have. And I'll tell you, he got the most kills on his team that game and he died the most. Well I guess tied with Gene Kato and Curry but it's always still fun to see Titan or Titan play. I, I guess Any other thoughts or anybody else on the cast for like Pain Gaming and what it was like watching them play? Was it, were there any bright spots for you? I'm getting a big lot of nothing. [00:29:41] Speaker D: Good. [00:29:42] Speaker C: I, I got you, go ahead. I'm. No, no, no. [00:29:47] Speaker A: You say some. No, no, no. [00:29:50] Speaker D: I, I, I do think that you know the energy going into this series was fun to watch. It is sad that it ended up being so one sided but I do think we saw kind of what we've been seeing build up for 100 Thieves be played out in this series and that was really nice to see. Yeah even with some of the little slip ups. I think that's always going to come with a team like this. But it's nice to see them still working at the things that were working for them in LTA North. [00:30:20] Speaker A: Agreed. I think that Quid and FBI in particular are both just popping off right now. There's a lot of firepower on this 100 Thieves roster and quid shout out perfect CS 10.1. You love to see it. You know that was the First. [00:30:36] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, no, I was just gonna say, I mean we'll talk about them later. But like when I was watching Quid play and I know it's not the like best of competition given that it's the fourth seed from LTA south, but like I kind of sat there and I was like, is this guy the best mid in the west right now? And then we'll talk about another candidate later. But I think Quid and I think Quad and Quit are just firing on all cylinders at this point for, for mid lane in the west. [00:31:14] Speaker A: Those two are a very strong right. [00:31:16] Speaker B: If I had to give pain a slight positive, it's. They look better than probably two other teams from the south despite being the fourth seed. [00:31:26] Speaker A: I will agree with that. I think fourth seed, they were the second best team from the south because as we get into our next series, this is probably the worst look of all of them. Close your eyes. What was that? [00:31:41] Speaker B: South. Close your eyes. [00:31:43] Speaker C: South. [00:31:43] Speaker A: Close your eyes. Fly Quest versus Leviathan. Oh man, these were, these were games. Tough matches. Yeah, these were games. [00:31:52] Speaker D: This was also supposed to be like one of the, on paper the closest matchups, right? [00:31:56] Speaker A: What matchup should have been a straw. Which, which is the one that went the full three games. [00:32:05] Speaker D: But weren't a lot of the fans of LTA south really high on Leviathan? [00:32:09] Speaker A: No, they were really high on Israel Istral. The other LLA team, Levyaton was the one that was kind of a surprise to even make top four. A lot of people had the power ranked like bottom half of the team, so. But it was off of Cody, the mid laner, kind of having pop off performances and really good laning phases and then SEO the AD carry as well, being able to kind of back him up as a secondary carry. But we didn't see either of them really have any bright moments throughout this. Scary was the one that actually probably looked the best of the roster, their jungler. But that's not even saying much because inspired, his jungle opponent was literally CEO of Full Clear the entire game. Just like barely falling fought at all. He didn't die the whole series and just kind of like continuously farmed the entire time on Sejuani and Lilia. It's hilarious. Oh my God. [00:33:04] Speaker B: CEO of Full Clear and he almost has a perfect kill participation. He had 19 out of 21. [00:33:11] Speaker A: 19. Wait, which game? [00:33:13] Speaker B: In game one. [00:33:14] Speaker A: Oh, game. Okay, sure. Game one. Yeah, fair enough. That was the Sejuani game and that was with Bwipo on the volley bear just popping off. Did anyone see that clip that Went around where he's down to, like, 100 health and then gets a queue off on my Twitter. His unending despair also heals, and he goes up to, like, half health. [00:33:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:34] Speaker A: Holy. [00:33:36] Speaker D: Taking screenshots of that was actually so insane. [00:33:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that was. He's literally in a 1v4 while the team's, like, taking turret. And, like, I think they're killing the Bessa, if I remember correctly. I don't remember who they killed the. [00:33:49] Speaker B: Investor while Bwipo dives. Four of them. Then they take the tower, and Pupa's like, I'm good, guys. Don't worry. [00:33:54] Speaker A: He lives. They take the inhibitor turret, and then he just keeps diving, and then they just win the game. It's like, okay, nice. That was fun, Buffo. You had a fun game. And then the second game, a little more standard. Top lane is just kissante, but that's where we had the busio Pike. Which do we want to talk about? Busi Spike, can he just. [00:34:17] Speaker C: I mean, I guess it is like his pick that it's like, hey, I'm having fun. [00:34:21] Speaker A: He. [00:34:21] Speaker C: He. [00:34:21] Speaker A: Ha ha. [00:34:22] Speaker C: But, like. [00:34:25] Speaker B: I think Flight just wanted to prove they could win a 4v5. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Okay. If. If anybody didn't catch the interview after the fact, we kind of roasted him on broadcast a little bit. A little bit. You know, we're being tasteful about it. [00:34:40] Speaker C: Yeah, we. [00:34:41] Speaker A: We're poking fun. But, like, yes, the talk is about the pike plays in his words. He was like, look, I got umbral glaive, and I was useful. I dropped the words, and I might have ran it down a little bit, but it's all right. I was still useful. And, I mean, that was kind of the story of that game. He was getting picked off a lot, but he was controlling vision. He was distracted. That's what I call. This is what I say. Mazel's heard me say this a lot. It's the oh, hey, look at me strat, where you distract the enemy and then they use all their abilities on you, and then your team can win the fight afterwards. [00:35:12] Speaker C: The carrot on this. The carrot on a stick strategy. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Exactly. Exactly. I'm an expert at that strategy. So busio a man sport after my own heart. What. What are overall thoughts about Fly Quest, though? Because general sentiment was that going into the weekend? Okay. Hundred thieves, first seed. But FlyQuest is probably still the best team after they're dismantling a Leviathan. Do we think that that is true? Let's start with Mazel. Where do you rank Fly Quest on performance? [00:35:41] Speaker D: I Mean, I don't think it changes that thought process though. I still, I like, I still think Hundred Thieves deserve a lot more respect than they're getting, but I still think flyquez is a really good team. Right. And I, I think I still would put them behind 100 thieves just because for some reason Hundred Thieves has some weird mojo going on right now. It's just working for them. But also like there, there's still that conversation that Fly Quest can break down at any moment if they're. If like one of their main shot callers is not having a good. A good split or a good series. Right. And I'm not necessarily thinking we saw that in this series as a whole, but some of the disconnects did bug me. And that's why like coming into this whole conversation of LTA as a whole, it still is a situation where people aren't as happy with these wins as they should be. Right. Because yes, they were dominant on paper, two zeros, but there was a lot of mistakes macro wise. A lot of moments that they let teams kind of come back into games when they should have had it completely closed out. So. So I would say I would put FlyQuest in that poll of. I really wish they would have been a lot more clean because I don't think Hundred Thieves is clean. But I know they're scrappy as hell and they'll win games. I want to see our dominant teams like FlyQuest and TL Be Clean. [00:36:59] Speaker A: I agree. I think so too. Any other thoughts from. From the others or are we ready to move on to the next series? [00:37:06] Speaker B: I think this series told us absolutely nothing. [00:37:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:11] Speaker D: Yep. [00:37:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Other than Busio has happy games sometimes. [00:37:15] Speaker C: Happy gaming moment. [00:37:16] Speaker A: Happy. [00:37:17] Speaker D: I know our. Our audience can't see it, but I have this wonderful gif that I have saved in my favorites on Discord for. For moments like this for Busio. And I'm gonna post it in just a second when I find it. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Okay. [00:37:29] Speaker D: And then we can all laugh about it. [00:37:30] Speaker A: I'm ready to laugh about it for now. Let's move on to the next series though. And then we'll react to the funny image later. It is Cloud nine versus Loud. Was it? Okay, never mind. He got it. [00:37:40] Speaker C: Oh wait, there it is. [00:37:41] Speaker A: Oh, yep. Okay, that's a good one. That's a good one. [00:37:47] Speaker D: It's just Busio laughing. He's chuckling. [00:37:50] Speaker A: It's a little like Sly Kids, which. Okay, but this is a side tangent. Has anyone noticed Busio and Kalist look like weirdly similar in on kc A little bit. [00:38:03] Speaker C: I can see it. [00:38:04] Speaker A: They could be like brothers, maybe cousins, probably more cousins. But they look like they could have some kind of relation. Either way. Next series. Cloud 9 versus loud was the one to kick off things on Sunday, and it was an undefeated streak for day one for the north, it was wondering, okay, can Cloud 9 keep that going? And, oh, boy, did they. Loud, despite showing, I think, more effort than Levyaton did, they actually lost their games faster. Cloud9 is the fastest team in the north right now. 2840 for game one, 29, 34 for game two, both of which faster than their average, which is like 32 minutes, I want to say. So they're even speeding that up with their quick dismantling of Loud. And oh, my God, did that Level one go poorly for Loud in game one? Did anyone remember, like, the lane swap with the Olaf and then just how disastrous it was? [00:39:00] Speaker C: Oh, was the. The deep word between inner, Top, inner and. Yep, the. In the inhibitor and Vulcan breaks the ward, fakes walking one direction, and they think, hmm, maybe he faked. They don't think maybe he faked walking that way. And then Robo looked like a lost puppy for four and a half minutes. And then just the game was over at that point for him. [00:39:22] Speaker A: And then they tried to force a 4v2 dive top turret onto the K'sante, but by that point, Blabber had cleared every camp and was level four and was able to actually answer that as Zyra. And so you have a level one Olaf try to dive a level four Zyra, and it was like, oh, well. [00:39:42] Speaker C: Like, Thanatos got the. The thing that was, like, really bad for them. And I don't know who highlighted it on the thing, but it was like he got half the first wave of experience because, yeah, they didn't zone him off properly. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Jack did a whole, like, breakdown of everything that went wrong in the first five minutes for Loud, and it was, I believe, seven key components of a lane swap that went wrong. Number one was like the Olaf didn't leech XP off of mid because he didn't want to lane into the duo bot. Fine. So then you have to leech XP off of mid. He didn't do that. He only got, like, one minion of XP and then walked to top side. Number two, or I guess number one was the war. The number two was that the number three was like, you need to zone off the enemy top laner. They didn't do that. So Thanatos hits level two, then you need to disrupt the enemy jungler you didn't so blabber's Level four. Like, just like all these checklists of like, okay, these are the strats of what you need to be thinking of. And like, Loud just seemed lost, which we did expect going into it. The south teams were much worse at lane swapping and oftentimes just avoided lane swapping in their region or, sorry, in their conference play. So that was something that we kind of knew was a weakness going in, but it was really evident in game number one. [00:40:57] Speaker D: This was the most dominant series by far. And like, I think it gave a little bit more like, self, like, maybe false confidence for C9. But also C9 are a bunch of veterans that when they're feeling themselves, they look damn good. And so it might actually be way more powerful for C9 going forward than we maybe anticipated. [00:41:18] Speaker A: I. After this one, I was like, that's what I wanted to see every one of our teams do. Fly Quest was similar, but Busio did have like the, the funny moments. So it wasn't dominant, but this was like, yeah, no, this is. This raised the Cloud nine stocks for me because this really did look like a team just dismantling a team. Much worse than them. Yep. And yeah, there really was no avenue for allowed to get in. They just kept trying to like, overload different sides of the map and chase down people. And Cloud 9 was just able to answer it every single time. [00:41:49] Speaker D: The, the, the conversations from guys. So Cloud 9, their members, like, obviously I already said they're veterans, they're very seasoned and like, they're just matter of fact with things that they see and say. And so like them calling out the crowd, like saying that they were like saying slurs right to their face. [00:42:07] Speaker A: So funny. [00:42:09] Speaker D: And then. And then afterwards they're like. It was really like. We heard Inspired say from his day where it was like, yeah, it was actually was. So he had an interview with Basil after the games or whatever and they were. They were talking about the crowd and he was just like, it was made it even better feeling knowing that these people were being so passionate about their teams. But I was just about to shit on them. I was like, yes, let's go. Kind of building. [00:42:37] Speaker A: That is beak inspired right there. [00:42:39] Speaker D: But it's just like all our players were just like, yeah, honestly, like their crowd influence was. Was omega. But in the end it didn't matter. [00:42:48] Speaker A: That was quite fun. That was a hostile crowd. The day one we on the desk, it was tough to know because we couldn't really hear the crowd through our earpieces. We. What we were told afterwards is that the audience could apparently like the stream was picking it up, but we weren't. So day two, we were finally able to hear just how loud they were. And we were like, oh my God, this is. [00:43:09] Speaker D: Yeah, they were really loud. I mean, sniper said when he got solo killed by. I was watching a little bit of the pros, I think it was, and he was saying that whenever he got solo killed by Chitan that like he literally couldn't hear his teammates. He was like trying to apologize to his teammates, but he couldn't hear anything that they couldn't hear him. [00:43:27] Speaker A: That's amazing. That's the power of a crowd. Unfortunately, it did not give enough energy to the south teams as their lose streak continues into the last series of the weekend is Cirrus Estrall versus Team Liquid. But this was the singular three game series from the weekend across both regions. LEC and lta. This one did go the distance. Team Liquid the only north team to drop a game to a south team. And this is also the one that I kind of hedged all my bets or not hedged all my bets. I put all my bets on. I really did think that east straw of all the south teams looked the best and team Liquid of all the north teams looked the worst. No surprise. First versus fourth seeds. And the. It was a pretty competitive match. I mean, this one actually was very entertaining. I was pretty excited the entire time through watching this one. Even like game one, Team Liquid's draft, I was like, ooh, they don't have the best engage tools. They have like xinjiao pantheon. Like, are they gonna be able to out team fight? But then they had zig. So they just like don't team fight and instead they just rotate around the map taking turrets. They have some really cool like macro calls. But then game two a gangplank. When's the last time anybody saw gangplank played in professional league of Legends? A week ago, remember? What was that a week ago? Oh, was it okay? [00:44:53] Speaker B: I think. [00:44:53] Speaker A: Which region? [00:44:54] Speaker B: I think lck. I think Keen pulled it out. [00:44:59] Speaker A: All right, so for any normal people, when's the last time? It's not a very common pick. I think it was really cool to see the lane swaps didn't fully work to fully shut it down. That was the concern was like, okay, how does he do if you try and like dive him? Him with three members or four members? Because all these guys that one little orange. But he was kind of fine coming out of laning. Phase he was a little behind but, like wasn't disastrously behind. And shout out to Jose Dioto for just constantly putting up the pressure. And this was the first game that just looked bad, actually, you know, even game one empty looked bad. That was the one that he like failed the flash old on Zhao and then misses the wind becomes lightning on the azir on the sideline. But, but this game in particular, Umpty as Poppy can't keep a VI out of the Baron Pit. How does that happen? [00:45:49] Speaker D: Dude, I, I don't know. I mean, I feel like if I say what I want to say about Umpty from this series, I, I might be fined. [00:45:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll say it. I'm trying to get. [00:46:01] Speaker D: It definitely was a rough showing. I think he had some hero moments as well that maybe l lift up some of those bad moments. But man, I, I, he got completely outshined by Jose Dioto in this entire series. [00:46:13] Speaker A: I agree. And that's not even like Jose Dioto had pop off KDA's like insane highlight plays. [00:46:19] Speaker D: He was doing jungle things. [00:46:21] Speaker A: Yeah, it was just like basic bread and butter stuff. And then Umpty just completely miss executing mechanical plays, which is really, really concerning for Team Liquid going forward. I think stocks for them are at an all time low to be the north representative at first stand. And game three did see a bit of a comeback, but that was mostly off of APA having a pretty good series, all things considered. Really good Cassiopeia game and yawn, dude, yawn Stocks are at an all time high. He had three really good games. Even their loss, he was trying his absolute hardest to carry and just wasn't quite able to get them across that finish line. So mazel. I know that you're a big yawn guy. You've been singing his phrases for a bit now. [00:47:06] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean, the guy is, I've said it on Twitter and stuff, but like, he is who's push pushing Masu, which is so nice to see both of them kind of come up at the same time to some extent. But the guy is hard carry and he's playing confidently and I think that's something he's been building to. We've seen it a lot over the last year, but it feels like to some extent, I would say obviously Core has a lot of experience to him, but it feels like they're playing on the same level. Right. It feels like they're on the same page. It's no longer as much of oh, hey Core. Jj, can you help carry this? This Newer rookie player. Right. Jan is actually coming into his own. I think this was a defining series for that because he needed to. Right. I don't think Apa was having a great series as a whole. I think they needed somebody to kind of pick up that slack. And I know that Spawn's gonna be very happy with how Jan handled himself. And then the interview after was so cute. I loved it so much. [00:48:00] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. I had a push for that interview, by the way. I was like, yawn. And everyone was like, no, we could go like impact or something. I'm like, guys, look at yacht. Like, we have to do yon. And I feel like there's just this expectation that if a player has like one bad interview early in their career, they're just not picked up for interviews. And yon killed that interview. Loved it it. So I'm really happy that that one worked out. But I will say props for East Straw. They they kept it competitive and that third game, they could have won that game. That actually felt like one that maybe even should have been in their favor. But then Bertol just gets picked at the very end when their comp felt like it was kind of starting to catch up. So rough to see. Bickle, I know you and I were talking about the Bertol moment before going live on the podcast. That was hard to watch. [00:48:51] Speaker B: That was Jose gave it such a good show in there. Even stole the bear in this game trying to use team in it. But Bertol, when your entire comp is built around that side lane threat of the Camille and nothing goes right for Bertol this game that it just did not work out well. [00:49:14] Speaker A: Yeah, their comp was a Camille yone kind of double side lane dive. The backline threat composition and then gin as a more facilitating ad carry with ivern jungle nautilus to start fights. If the Camille and the yone are both, like getting gapped and super far behind, it's gonna be a rough time. But it still just felt like there was this pop off potential for them. Especially when Jose de Oto, he also steals a Barrett in this one, right? Yeah, this is the one where he, like, he ivern cues over the wall, smites it, and then flashes out so. [00:49:49] Speaker D: Umpteen where he was like, wasn't this the one he was popping off? [00:49:52] Speaker B: Yep. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Yeah, he, like jumped up out of his. Or not. Maybe not jumped out of his chair, but like, he was very animated out of his chair. And it was not enough, unfortunately, as team Liquid were able to pick off Bertol and then just swiftly end the game after that one pick. So. Or rather supposedly get the cloud soul and then push to end the game right afterwards. So, yeah, that was. That was the story of East Stroll. They were so close. Badger, what were your thoughts on East Straw and how close they were able to make the series? [00:50:26] Speaker C: I. I think they did a really great job of being able to punish the Team Liquid mistakes. I. You do have to take some of the. You. I. I don't know how to say this without it sounding like. Like a negative. Like they were able to notice when Liquid was messing up and they knew exactly how to respond. Most of the time, I would say to get the advantage. But in the end, Jan, just. Is this a legacy series for Yawn? Like, is this. Could this be like a legacy tournament for Yawn if he just has continuous performances like this? [00:51:08] Speaker D: I mean, I think he's been the best player on TL by a mile this entire split. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Absolutely. 18, 2 and 14 was his KDA across all 3 games. He only died twice in 3 games. [00:51:20] Speaker B: Umpty better be thanking Yawn here and there because otherwise he was being left in Brazil when Team Liquid went home. [00:51:26] Speaker A: Oh, there was a really funny tweet that I saw. So a lot of the players on Isaurus Estrall were Argentinian and there was a tweet that said Umpty almost followed a long history of generals retiring in Argentina. [00:51:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I saw that one. [00:51:45] Speaker A: That was pretty funny. That was pretty funny. I liked that one. But unfortunately he is still gonna continue going, or I guess fortunately for Team Liquid, maybe unfortunate for Umpty and his stocks. He doesn't have to keep going. He can try and turn it around. But that's gonna be a future goal for him because we have matchups ahead of us this next weekend. One more weekend of LTA playing in Sao Paulo. We have the semifinals, both happening on Saturday. Their best of threes and then finals, which is finally a best of five. We will actually get a best of five series in lta. The only one in the entire split is the last one. [00:52:23] Speaker D: Can I just say something really quick? And it's kind of sad, to be honest. So we have a stats person for LPL English, so we can actually have stats shout out to Sim Yaz from lec. There's some really unfortunate games played situations going on across the world. The LEC and LTA as a whole have played 55 games right now. And obviously that's going to change a little bit when playoffs is around. But what. We only have three series left, so the max it could go is 15 more games. LEC is about 58 games I think played right now across the board and still have a little bit of a while to play. Both LPL and lck, which LCK is about to end. LPL still has a hell of a lot more games to go. Are both at 90 games played almost. And if you don't think about that too deeply. Yeah, that's fine. Whatever. It's like 40 games. You think about that on a competitive level. Like the teams, the LTA teams are going to have played one best of five going into first stand, where it's literally like your life on the line in the best of fives immediately. And like, the. The lack of preparation and practice, these teams are going to have like. There is no chance that LPL and LCK aren't winning first stand. There's literally no chance. Chance. [00:53:49] Speaker A: That is crazy, actually. Wow. [00:53:51] Speaker D: Something like LPL is going to have played double the amount of games. No doubt. Because we still have, like, almost 10 series left. [00:54:00] Speaker A: And the best part is LCK is also, like, as a region, not taking this split very seriously. [00:54:06] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:54:07] Speaker A: They're not. They're just calling it a cup. They're not even calling it like a split. Wow. All right. Well, I did not know that stat. That's cool to know. Thanks for bringing the mood down. [00:54:18] Speaker B: I can add to it and kind of make it more. [00:54:20] Speaker D: You were just talking about games played stuff. It just made me think about it. [00:54:23] Speaker A: That's funny. All right, Big old. Bring it down to more. What you got. [00:54:26] Speaker B: So Bank Fear X in the LCK was eliminated in group stage. They were the only team eliminated that didn't even get to play ins or playoffs. It is very likely they will play more games than any LTA team. [00:54:42] Speaker A: Wow. How many are that? [00:54:44] Speaker B: Thirteen. [00:54:46] Speaker A: Thirteen. So 100 Thieves has played eight. Let's imagine they go to the full series against Fly. Win, go to the full series and their best of five. That would be eight more. That'd be 16. But if they do the minimum of two and three, that is 13. Okay. It's. [00:55:05] Speaker B: It's gonna be close. [00:55:06] Speaker A: It's gonna be close, which is kind of sad. [00:55:09] Speaker B: The fact that there's only one best of five is a problem. [00:55:13] Speaker A: It's ridiculous. And again, we had the schedule. LEC's got another week of play. LPL's got plenty first stands on for a while. We could have had, you know, like a double Elim bracket here in Sao Paulo with more best of fives, but not the world we live in, unfortunately. [00:55:29] Speaker B: Just do the LEC playoff format. [00:55:33] Speaker A: That could work too. [00:55:35] Speaker B: It's literally the LTA format with double elim. That's it. [00:55:38] Speaker A: It. Oh, just the playoff format. Yeah. Yeah. Not. Not the regular. [00:55:43] Speaker B: No, not the regular season format. Don't do that. [00:55:46] Speaker A: Yeah. The best of one round robin is tough in a fearless style. Just because you don't get fearless and best of ones. But yeah, I. I do see the. The argument for that. Again, you know, we're arguing against a brick wall because the decision has already been made. What we have in front of us is just two more best of threes and a best of five. Let's talk about those ones because we have hundred these versus fly quest and then team liquid versus c9. They have best of threes in front of them before the one best of five finals. Let's talk about predictions. 100 these versus fly quest. We are almost unanimous. Fly Quest for myself, Badger and Bickle. But Mazel holding the line with hundred Thieves. You said they got the mojo. Is that's what's motivating this decision? [00:56:28] Speaker D: Yeah. No, absolutely. There's just something going on over there, man. There's so. There's something in the water and it's not bad. It's good. [00:56:36] Speaker A: Yep. Sniper turned 18. They sacrificed his youth to the gods and now they can play League of Legends. I struggled to pick Flyquest. I wanted to pick Hundred Thieves. I wanted to believe. But after seeing Fly Quest vs. Leviathan vs. 100 Thieves and Pain, I was like, Fly Quest convinced me a little more with their win. And also in a fearless system. I just. I still think that they're gonna be the team to be. But this is a cool match because it's the first seed versus the team that so many people are saying is still the best team from the north, even though they're coming in as third seed because Cloud 9 upset them. [00:57:13] Speaker D: So I really hope we get good series. [00:57:16] Speaker A: I really do too. Game or series number two though? Team Liquid versus C9 again. Almost unanimous myself. Badger, Bickle F. C9. Mazzell holding the line again, baby. You have Team liquid taking a 2. 1 first. Let's start off with the C9 side. Let's hear from Badger. Why do you think C9 is able to take this series? [00:57:35] Speaker C: I think that Blabber and Loki are going to do a really good job of playing the Mid Jungle against Umpty and Apa, who were almost the losing factor in their and their series against Iseris. And when you have a strong duo pairing like that, it's able to overcome this bot lane of yawn and core. So I think Jan's gonna be able to will them to one game. But I think just C9 overall is just the better team coming into the series. [00:58:14] Speaker A: I kind of have to agree with the exact same assessment that Mid Jungle is going to be a problem for Team Liquid. I don't think it's necessarily a strength for C9. I think bot lane is the biggest streng for them. And yes, yon core JJ is very powerful in their own right. But it just seems like C9's teamfight coordination is so much better than Team Liquids right now that even if Jan's ahead, it might not be enough. That leads to the eventual winners. So myself, Badger and Bickle are aligned that it's gonna be a Cloud 9 versus FlyQuest finals. Mazel thinks it's gonna be 100 these versus TL finals, which is pretty hype. Which means Mazel is the only one that has 100 thieves. Taking this. Between myself, Badger and Bickle, I am now the odd man out. Badger and Pickle both have Fly Quest. I have C9. We all have it going. Five games. Even Mazel thinks five games for 100 Thieves. It better be five games, man. If we only get one five game or best of five fearless draft and it's a sweep, that'd be so disappointing. Oh my God. [00:59:16] Speaker D: How like how anti climactic. Honestly though, with how like like the first weekend was literally the worst possible outcome. Honestly at this point I'm riding the worst possible outcome. Stomping would be an absolute tragedy for this league. [00:59:32] Speaker A: That would be so disappointing. Yeah, but the reason I have C9 doing it is because. Well, first off, the TLC9 is gonna be our first time seeing those two teams against each other, which is pretty cool. Second of all, C9 versus flying. We have seen this one already. And guess who upset fly quest the first time. It was C9. I don't see a reason to bet against them in the rematch. I think that they have shown time and time again that they are going to perform above my expectations. And as of right now, my expectations are that they are actually the best team that we have in the north right now. So I. I gotta fully flip my opinion. C9 all the way, baby. I started off as the biggest doubter, now I'm the biggest believer. But Bickle talk me down from the ledge. Why do you think Fly Quest is going to take it? [01:00:18] Speaker B: I think it has been such a short split that you do have to still consider last year for These teams that have stayed together, FlyQuest has shown a lot of consistency if you ignore Busio's fun game. And also I think they're a team that does very well in kind of a fearless setting where they can bring more options to the table. Plus you mentioned the close series they had together. They also scrimmed on stream and we saw how that went. So I know it's not the same, but we see these teams competing very closely. But I still just give the edge to fly as I feel like if they need somebody to step up, they're more likely to have that occur. [01:01:02] Speaker A: Okay, fair enough. Anything to add to that one Badger? [01:01:09] Speaker C: Like I was saying earlier, you know how I was saying the mid jungle is going to be so important. Hey, I, I, I raise you. I take your loki and blabber and I raise you. [01:01:25] Speaker A: Inspired. [01:01:26] Speaker C: Inspired and quad. Yeah, like I, I doesn't get much better than that in the west. Like genuinely, it's, it's just such a good pairing. I think this team can ride the momentum. They did kind of little have a little stumble at the end of, of the last. Yeah. What do we even call that? Like the group stage? Not even group. [01:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't, I guess just the North Conference play. [01:01:53] Speaker C: North Conference playoff, whatever. So I, I, I think they're just the team that's going to recommend or, or apologies, represent us at first strike stand, whatever the it's called first stand. First stand. First strike would be so much better. But first stand, I guess strike the. [01:02:13] Speaker A: Strike, keep the stand. That's how you'll remember. All right. Mizelle, why, why do you think Hundred Thieves just first seed Mojo gonna keep riding the high? [01:02:23] Speaker D: Yeah, I, I think it's, it's gonna be, I don't know. Recently I've just been feeling the Mimi story lines for lta just cuz a lot of it has Mimi. So it would just be absolutely hilarious for 100 thieves to represent be the only representative to NA at first stand when they're literally on their way out of league and I don't know. This team's also something special. I'm really happy to see them kind of function together and I'm glad that they're propping themselves up to kind of get themselves jobs with 100 thieves eventually does leave. [01:02:55] Speaker A: I'm happy you reminded me of that. That Hundred Thieves is now kind of on the way out already and technically are just kind of like holding this provisional spot, which is very funny to think about, but yeah. All right, cool. That is it for lta. That was the review as well as our little preview and predictions for the coming weekend. Now let's move over across the pond to the lec. Let's lock each other. I don't. I don't like that at all. I'm gonna never say that one again. We had a couple of mashes in the lec and this was the region of sweeps, the weekend of sweeps. Bickle, how many not sweeps did we have this weekend in the LEC? [01:03:40] Speaker B: We had a whole 0. [01:03:42] Speaker A: 0 not sweeps. That's because they were all sweeps, in fact, and the all sweeps started off with Fnatic versus Team Heretics. Now this one, we all got our predictions correct last week. So shout out to everybody that threw their predictions in. Yeah, let's go. And let me tell you, yeah, it was pretty much what we expected it to be. When it comes down to Fnatic versus Heretics smashing game one, 25 minute game, game two, they had to work for it a little bit harder because they drafted for a smolder comp and needed to wait for the smolder to come online. But like it was fine. [01:04:21] Speaker C: Yeah, like they can do that against teams like that. Like it's. [01:04:24] Speaker A: They can do that against teams like Team Heretics. There was nothing that Sho was doing to slow this down. And yeah, Humanoid also shout out to upset only D1 time in this two games. 18, 1 and 10. Hey, I have been singing upset praises for a while. I thought he's been doing good and I feel, you know, validated. And I'm just gonna keep going with Fnatic here just because they're the team that I am responsible for watching. We'll give some slight spoilers because G2 smashed GX earlier as well. Fnatic then played G2 later in the weekend. We got the El Classico early in the bracket and this was the one prediction I got wrong the entire weekend. I'm so sad, man. Fnatic, they weren't able to do it. G2 20 them despite Fnatic getting early leads both games. Games. But then they also threw at Attica in both games. [01:05:22] Speaker B: Wait, Kangas, this is impossible. You're saying Fnatic got an early lead against G2 in the playoffs and then choked? [01:05:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:05:35] Speaker B: Never heard that before, man. [01:05:37] Speaker A: It was so sad. They even had a 5v4 fight in game one that they lost. Like Caps wasn't even in the fight until the very end of it. But Han Sama just takes it out of his ass ass shoves it up fanatics. Game two was Again, another dominant early game where they throw out Otacon and then just keep getting picked off over and over and over again to the point where like G2 so far ahead, Caps gets like an Azir solo kill in the side lane versus humanoid and then Oscar Renin's like, all right, sweet azir ulted. Let me go in as Ambessa and try and like kill him and then dies here as well. Like he gets too 2 1v ones in a row. [01:06:15] Speaker B: And it was bad after picking on Caps. Game one. [01:06:18] Speaker A: Yeah, they did kind of pick on Caps. Gave what they were all over. Mickey had a really good game one for the first half and then was not able to keep the enemy jungle Pantheon away from that Atticon for the steel. We did get to see Warwick top. That was kind of cool. [01:06:35] Speaker B: I. I liked that twice by G2. They played it in both series. [01:06:39] Speaker A: Yep, yep. I was happy to see the Warwick pop up. I think that's a really fun pick here that I would love lta top laners to pick. I imagine Bipo is probably the one that would do it first here. But yeah, G2, they. They looked really, really good over the weekend overall and seems like they are just back in form other than rough early games. They. They still have that clutch factor and ability to just carry games with Hansama and Caps. I've heard some Hansama slander lately and I will not stand for it. It. I think Hansam is playing very well. So that's the top half of the bracket. Badger talk to me about the bottom half of the bracket. Starting off with Koi and kind of their journey. If you want to start off with the first series, feel free. But the bigger one was their match against KC because that one was pretty hyped too. [01:07:24] Speaker C: Yeah. So koi had a first round match with BDS. You know, roll in game one. Nice little 30 minute, not particularly close. Throughout it game, everyone's firing on cylinders. Yoyo looks good on the Zyra Jungle Alvaro doesn't die on Rell. Everything's going according to plan. [01:07:56] Speaker A: Why do I feel like there's going to be a. [01:08:00] Speaker C: Game two happens? [01:08:02] Speaker A: Oh, oh, oh. Okay. [01:08:03] Speaker C: Okay. [01:08:03] Speaker A: So game one did wrap up. [01:08:05] Speaker C: Yeah. Game one wraps up. Game one wraps up. And it's. It's. [01:08:08] Speaker A: And then game two. I'm seeing a victory on the screen. Yeah, that's great. [01:08:11] Speaker C: Right? [01:08:12] Speaker A: Good start. [01:08:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Coy wins the game. [01:08:19] Speaker B: They shouldn't have. [01:08:20] Speaker C: They shouldn't have. They really should not have won this game. [01:08:25] Speaker A: I'm still reeling for how the hell they pulled this one out. [01:08:28] Speaker C: I genuinely am wondering what crevices of their asses they managed to pull this out of. Like, I. I don't even know how to put this into words of like, like, BDS has Rumble Maokai Renata to make space for Tristana and Varys who are both fed this game. Like, like, I. I mean. [01:09:02] Speaker A: You can't beat JoJo Py baby. He's too good, Jojo. [01:09:05] Speaker C: Just too good. Is this Ezreal champion busted? [01:09:10] Speaker A: Like a little bit. Also, Merwin's back to the Enchanter's top lane. He plays this twice in the weekend. The Karma full AP Karma into the Rumble. Later he'll play a Tank Karma build. Not as successful, but still, I think it's cool. Going back to his bread and butter is really good. [01:09:32] Speaker C: Like. [01:09:35] Speaker A: Yeah, something like that. Something like that. Also super has a much better series this time around than their next series. Domination in game one. Rough game too, but they're able to bring it back after some clutch late game team fight engages. And also, I will say Karma with the yone is kind of disgusting. Like, the yone just can't die, man. No, he's able to snap back. You have infinite shields for him him. And it's. It's just really hard to deal with him as those carries. [01:10:03] Speaker C: So doing a lot of damage while keeping the team alive and providing utility and crowd control. This Karma champion's pretty good. [01:10:11] Speaker A: So have we seen Karma top anywhere else? Mizell has like anybody in the lpl experimented with Enchanter Stop Lane? Not this, but yeah, Merwin's like the guy. He's just. He's that dude. [01:10:24] Speaker C: He just plays whatever like he, he. I mean, we got the. The Classic Cassante and Bessa and the others at the K core Koi Series game one. But that's, you know that in Fearless, that's the standard. Oh, we're gonna. We're gonna play these two champs combo. [01:10:41] Speaker A: Yeah. So but then game two, that's where it gets spicy, dude. The Tank Karma top lane grass for the Undying building Iceborne gauntlet first. [01:10:52] Speaker C: This is like the old chakras tech from that he was talking about years ago. I. Yep. I. I mean grasp is in a really good spot. My thing is like, I don't think Iceborne is in a position right now where you can afford to build it on champions that it's not like an absolute core item on like. I understand, I understand. Like, like you get so many, so many of the procs off and it makes your trading very. Go very well. And like you already have the fimble winner in the build too. So like you. You just have to commit to the bit at that point. But like, it just doesn't feel like the right play. [01:11:36] Speaker A: Like, I think the idea is, you know, you can pivot a build based on if you think you're gonna get lane swapped on or Tura Dove. When you're against like a Wukong Kalista Renata, I don't think you're gonna get dove, which is why the tank builds a little weirder. You did make con go lethality Jace, which I haven't seen in a while. Kind of cool. But I want to start back on game one in the Casey versus Koi series, cuz. Oh my God, do Supa and Alvaro just run it down? [01:12:11] Speaker D: To be fair though, Kiss is really good. And actually Targus had like one of his best series. [01:12:17] Speaker A: That play in the 2v2 from Targumus and Kalist was so impressive because Supernova get baited, right? Like they think they're gonna win it and then just barely, they don't kill Kist and just both die. Yeah, Kis. [01:12:31] Speaker C: Kis that you know, we've talked about. [01:12:34] Speaker B: Turns out Clist is pretty good. [01:12:35] Speaker C: Yeah, we've talked about enough at this point. This French prodigy ad carry biggest like prospect to come up in Europe since like, I mean, probably reckless if we're. [01:12:45] Speaker A: Going to be honest, but I think so. [01:12:47] Speaker C: I think the most. [01:12:48] Speaker A: It begs the question. It begs the question, Mizell, since you have French genetics, why aren't you as good as Kalist? What's going on, man? [01:12:56] Speaker D: Great question. I will have to ask my parents. [01:12:58] Speaker C: Great question. Next question. [01:13:01] Speaker D: I will send a formal letter to the French embassy right now. [01:13:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. This is bullshit. I should inherit the mechanics. [01:13:10] Speaker D: But honestly then you can just do that question to all the other French players that have been in the LEC for the last. Yeah, six years. [01:13:19] Speaker A: You know what? I don't like to think of the other French players in the lse. They don't exist. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Mazal, I do want to get your thoughts on Jojo Pion and his performance because I. I wasn't that impressed with his second series. First series I thought he played pretty well. Actually very well. But second series a little rough. What do you think about the boy over in Europe? Is he making you happy or are you concerned with the performances? [01:13:43] Speaker D: I mean, I think. I think I'm fine with it. I don't think think my beginning of season prediction is gonna go the way I wanted it to be. But I Still think he's providing a really good role to the team. I think sometimes he feels a little bit lost, which maybe just coincides with the fact he's still like getting used to being on that team, being over there and probably not being a big shot caller, but I, I think it's serviceable. I wouldn't say it's like amazing, but it's, it's, it's pretty good. There's some moments where he literally hard carries games and I think that's something you always want, want to see from JoJo. [01:14:16] Speaker A: Yeah. And I, I will say just to remind everybody, mazel his way too early LEC prediction was just Jojo becomes the best new mid in the lec. Pretty ambiguous. I don't think we ever like made a modifier of like what that means. It was mostly just subjective. [01:14:29] Speaker D: Like MVP or something. [01:14:31] Speaker A: Yeah, something along those lines. He's not making the strongest case for himself right now, but he still has two more splits and I still think he's playing like serviceable enough, but could be considered potentially a weak link. [01:14:42] Speaker D: I think this split looks a little tough. [01:14:44] Speaker A: Yeah, this split does look a little tough. Bickle, what are your thoughts on what happened over in the lec? Specifically the Koi and KC match because that was kind of felt one sided but there were moments that Coy were fighting back. [01:14:59] Speaker B: There were some moments, especially game two. Koi was giving it their best shot. They had a good early game going and then. And things fell apart. So they're giving it a shot. It very much feels like it's a clear top four in the lec, which is kind of why we barely talked about any of the round one games because they were all slaughters. [01:15:22] Speaker A: None of them really, yeah, mattered much. [01:15:25] Speaker B: There was nothing that really mattered there. [01:15:27] Speaker A: I'll say the name Vitality just because I don't think we mentioned Vitality. [01:15:31] Speaker C: I don't think we said Vitality. [01:15:33] Speaker A: Next we're just going to mention the. [01:15:34] Speaker B: Name Vitality mentioned GX either, but they. [01:15:38] Speaker D: Were in the studio. [01:15:40] Speaker C: Vitality played two games of League of Legends this weekend. [01:15:44] Speaker A: That's. They did. In fact. [01:15:45] Speaker C: That's. That's all you need to. [01:15:46] Speaker B: Nobody's surprised the best teams won in round one. [01:15:50] Speaker A: They did in fact. And I mean dude, that, that Koi vs Casey ending of game two was so heartbreaking, man. Because like I've been seeing this a lot in Europe. We've had the meme in North America for a while. It's been getting more and more prevalent in Europe. It Eloya Smite Steals a Baron through a rend, by the way. Like props to Eloya for pulling that off. But then they just a ram it mid and just everyone dies. Like they just force a stupid fight and everyone's grouped up. Like, let's just. We have Baron five man mid. That's the meme. [01:16:26] Speaker B: Hey, guys, we just won a random fight. We shouldn't have. What if we try and luck it. [01:16:31] Speaker A: Again and then just immediately lose the game in the next three minutes because they just push in to take everything. It's like, come on, guys, we could do better than you're supposed to be better than the Americans. Please don't. Don't learn from us. But yeah, that was a, that was a tough way for that one to end. Overall though, that means that we have four teams still in the upper bracket. A couple teams in the lower bracket get that will be matching off against each other. So let's talk about them up first for this coming week and when we're getting into predictions. Actually, wait, do I have this? I do. Perfect. I just, I had it missing on my screen and now I have found it. Team Heretics vs. GX kick things off in the lower bracket and then BDS Vitality. Follow that up on Saturday. Across the board, we have GX2.0. Wow. Nobody was convinced by Team Heretics sticks. [01:17:31] Speaker B: In the words of one Jiggly Duff. Big Stinky. [01:17:37] Speaker A: Big Stinky. Big Stinky indeed. Yes. Dude. Stend is putting in in a late season push for for Most Deaths as a support, I'm pretty sure. All right, so BDS versus Vitality. Oh, we almost have a Vitality sweep, but still two ones. We think BDS is good for one. Mazel. Has BDS as a 2:1. Mizel, do you want to do, do you want to do the line? You want to do the bit? [01:18:03] Speaker D: You know, I don't know if I'm feeling that passionate about. [01:18:07] Speaker A: I was, I was expecting to be a Lafronce or something coming out here. [01:18:10] Speaker D: But no, no, I, I think it's gonna be interesting. I kind of just wanted to be a little bit different on this one, but I, I, I think there's a lot of possibilities with this roster and even though maybe haven't been living up to the expectations as much except for the, you know, and that Calist has had some really fun times. I, you know, or not clist. Sorry. I think that, I think they just take it. I think that it's obviously a tough series. I think it goes all the way. But I believe in the French boys Okay. [01:18:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Ice. [01:18:50] Speaker D: Is anybody. Is French on the team? [01:18:54] Speaker A: Technically, they're both French. Are they? [01:18:58] Speaker B: Vitality's a French organization. [01:19:01] Speaker A: You know, I've just never noticed that. That's funny. Yeah. Vitality. I still think even though Hill Singh is on an inting spree, he. He can still clutch it out here. [01:19:12] Speaker D: Dude, he said he was the problem. Peruse. He knows. [01:19:14] Speaker A: He knows. Exactly. Exactly. Okay, cool. Now moving on. We have Koi versus the winner of. I believe this one is Team Heretics gx. So across the board, we have Koi. No one believes in either Team Heretics or gx. We all have the gx. Sweet. And I think Bickle hit it on the head. It's kind of like a top four region right now. If you're not one of the top four teams, we don't have a lot of faith in your ability to continue here. So sweeps for us there. And then it's fnatic versus the winner of BDS Vitality. And no surprise, we have Fnatic sweeping. And this one's all two zeros. At least Mazel gave koia two one. So a closer series there. Props to you for making it interesting. Also, I gotta say, Mazel still technically first place in lec. Predictions, I'm pretty sure. But with the BDS change, this is a chance for Bickle to take you. Because if Bickle gets that one wrong, I think that he actually overtakes you there. Yeah. [01:20:17] Speaker D: Let me just change a bit now. [01:20:19] Speaker A: If you predict the same as Bickel for the rest of the split, you guarantee that you keep it. All right, that means that the upper bracket finals is the last one that we'll see this coming weekend. That's gonna be Casey versus G G2. And big surprise, Mazel has G2, Bickle has G2, Badger has G2. Kangas myself, I got Kaiba Core, baby. 3 2. Give it to me. I actually think KC is looking like the more consistent team in closing out early game leads. G2, they hold the line and they can win late. But they've had some rough starts to their series. The Fnatic one is kind of the prime example. But KC just seems like they are so much more comfortable actually ending the game than Fnatic is that I don't see Casey giving G2 the breathing room. The Fnatic was especially calist. If he can get rolling, he actually can gap Hansama and prevent Hansama from having those types of pop off performances. So that's my big reasoning. Bickle, why do you think G2 takes it because you actually have three one. You don't even think Casey's good for two games. [01:21:26] Speaker B: Counterpoint. It's G2 in playoffs. [01:21:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, it is G2 and playoffs, isn't it? [01:21:34] Speaker C: That's. That's why that's mine as well is it's G2 in playoffs. [01:21:43] Speaker A: Well, I'm voting against the grain, baby. I gotta catch up myself in some predictions here. So I really do think it could be Kaiba. Correct. But also I guess Bickle has to predict that it's gonna be G2 because your LEC prediction overall was that all three playoff finals would be G2 versus Fnatic. So it can't be Casey winning because. [01:22:04] Speaker B: If KC wins here, my predictions are already broken. But the good news is no matter what happens, I won't have the first way too early prediction broken because RMC predicted that two Latin America south teams would win in route in the spring one playoffs. [01:22:22] Speaker C: You're right. [01:22:24] Speaker A: That's actually hilarious. I forgot he did that. And you already highlighted it red. [01:22:29] Speaker B: I keep track of this stuff. [01:22:31] Speaker A: Yeah, well, let's rub it in next time he's on the podcast. But that will do it for our predictions for LEC next week. And that'll do it for another episode of the League Rundown. Thank you so much everybody for tuning in. And a reminder, if you could drop us a review wherever you're listening along. Mizel I. Dude, I'm so bad at this. It's so embarrassing. Every time I forget how many stars should they leave. [01:22:54] Speaker D: There's five of them. [01:22:56] Speaker A: Five. There we go. [01:22:57] Speaker D: Every time. Five. [01:22:59] Speaker A: Five stars. [01:22:59] Speaker D: Just remember that number. Five. Five. Five five five. [01:23:03] Speaker A: The level of Thunder Dragon which you can discard from your hand to the graveyard to search up to two Thunder Dragon from your deck to your hand. Og Yu Gi oh card goed. Leave five stars if you can if you got the time. Greatly appreciate it. Thank you everybody for coming on the pod. It was great having you all for another week. We we have more LTA and LEC action happening next week and everybody listening. If there's one thing that you can take away after listening to us talk about a video game and the highs and lows of said video game for about an hour and a half. It's that we love you and we'll see you next time. Goodbye. [01:23:38] Speaker C: Bye everyone. [01:23:39] Speaker A: Peace.